Hello Chris,
.WMA and .WAV are really the mane audio file types that I will be offloading 
from my computer to the player.
I won't be offloading anything that can be downloaded off the net, it will 
be music from my own personal CD collection.
I said MP3 player, but what I really need is an assessable ipodder.
I am thanking about building another tube amplifier from an S5 Electronic 
kit and another pare of speakers like the ones I have on my computer here at 
the house.
Except only, I will be setting this sound system up in my office at work.
MP3's are ok, but they sound grainy on tube amps.
If I can rip my CD's to .WMA lossless, that would be grate.
Any suggestions on assessable ipodders?
Thanks in advance.
  John.
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Subject: Re: accessible MP3 player


> What do you mean by "any file type?" I'm no expert, but I doubt you'll
> find an MP3 player that will play absolutely any file type. I know you
> can get MP3 players with large hard drives, in the order of 60GB and 8GB
> drives, that will work with Rockbox. I suspect they'll support most file
> types, but they won't work with some of the proprietary types, such as
> DRM, WMA, whatever iTunes uses, .... Actually, I think you can play WMA
> files with Rockbox now. You could double check the web site. It will
> play FLAC for example. I haven't canvased all of the MP3 players on the
> market, but I would suspect that off the shelf they aren't going to
> support all of the open source formats. I'm also not sure you'll find an
> MP3 player that will support both Apple's and Microsoft's proprietary
> formats. If it supports the file types you're interested in, I suspect
> Rockbox will be your best option.
>
> DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>> I to am looking for an MP3 player.
>> But I not only need and wanted to be assessable, I need and wanted to 
>> play
>> any audio file type.
>> I will be offloading lossless audio files on to it, so the hard drive in
>> this MP3 player has to have a lot of hard disc space.
>> Any suggestions?
>> Thanks in advance.
>>   John.
>> PS. you can contact me off list at:
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>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Christopher Chaltain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 12:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: accessible MP3 player
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>>> Are you looking for an off the shelf MP3 player or one designed
>>> specifically for the blind? The Victor Stream has been talked about
>>> recently. I think it's by HumanWare, and it was designed especially for
>>> the blind. If that's the one you're talking about, someone else can
>>> provide more information. I don't have one and haven't seen one yet.
>>>
>>> If you're looking for a simple off the shelf MP3 player, I don't think
>>> you could do better than the Zen Stone from Creative. It's a small
>>> compact flash  MP3 player that has 1GB of memory. It has no screen and
>>> uses no special software. Therefore, it's easy to use by the blind, and
>>> you can just use Windows Explorer to copy files to it. It also supports
>>> Overdrive, and I would assume NetLibrary and Audible as well.
>>>
>>> Another option is Rockbox, which is an open source replacement for the
>>> firmware that runs on an off the shelf MP3 player. Rockbox has some
>>> features that speak menus and folders/files out loud, so although it was
>>> designed for the blind, it can be used by the blind to access an off the
>>> shelf MP3 player. It takes a bit to set up, and not every MP3 player is
>>> supported, but you can learn more at rockbox.org.
>>>
>>> Finally, if you're more specific about what you're looking for, I'm sure
>>> you will get more info from this list.
>>>
>>> Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Do you want something basic? That is to say, something that just plays
>>>> MP3 files without any thrills or anything like that? Are you able to
>>>> use a CD Player? Well if the answer to these questions is yes and you
>>>> don't have all that much money to spend then the Ipod Shuffle is
>>>> highly recommended.
>>>>
>>>> On 03/12/2007, at 10:59 PM, Joanne wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I would like some info on the MP3 player people were talking about
>>>>> that can be used independently by blind people.  If there is a
>>>>> tutorial or any other info please direct me to this, as I am looking
>>>>> for one that I can put my songs on and travel with.  I don't know
>>>>> how many gigs this player holds or much about it at all, so would
>>>>> appreciate any help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joanne
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