Hi Dane The idea of smart playlists is certainly interesting, I don't think Winamp can do that, not without third party plugins and I'm not sure if one even exists to do that. Right now, I mostly listen to online radio stations, I read audio books, and the random playlist here and there. Winamp does all that for me without any modifications being made, and I figure, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. My earlier comments weren't meant as being whiny, and if you took them as such, my apologies. Obviously you're very happy with iTunes. that is truely wonderful, go for it, be happy and use it to your heart's content. But obviously, i prefer another program to do the same tasks, or many of them anyways, so why don't we just leave it at that shall we?
At 09:37 PM 7/1/2007, you wrote: >Ok, well to be perfectly fair with everyon, Itunes is far more than >a CD Ripper, the only software I've seen that offers anything which >even resembles Itunes is Winamp. Like Winamp, Itunes is based around >a Library concept and ripping CD's is only part of the deal, have >MP3's already which you've ripped from another App? Use Itunes to >import these into a library and then go further by manually creating >playlists or edit your own "Smart Playlists" in Itunes. Smart >playlists can be quite powerful, you could for example create a >"smart Playlist" so that only those songs which were released in the >year 1977 are played, a "smart playlist" could be created so that >only "easy listening" music was played from your library, have a >"smart playlist" created so that Itunes played a specified number of >songs over a specified period of time etc. You can create an "imix" >from a playlist or smart playlist, songs are automatically mixed >together for your party or whatever, burn your songs to CD's, export >them over a network etc. > >On 02/07/2007, at 11:40 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote: > >Hi > >I guess my thought process goes something like >this. I want to rip a cd. Now with iTunes on my >system I could do that, and afterwords, import >all the songs into the iTunes library. > but in order to even read what each song is in >the library, I would have to go through many many >steps to get that done, and hope JAWS reads the list of songs as >expected. >But why the hell would I want to do all that >when I can use a more accessible and much easier >program such as CDEX or Easy CD DA Extractor? Not >only can I determine where the files go, I can >very easily determine the bitrate and sampling >rate of the outputted files, determine where they >go on my hard drive, and even how the files are >named. With iTunes, at least on the Windows side >I find it very restrictive, even after you follow >all the steps in the original e-mail. Remember, >this is purely a personal preference thing, I'm >certainly not atempting to put Mac users or any >other choices of programs down. Just telling ya >how *I* like to do it, how everyone else does it is their own thing. > > >At 07:17 PM 7/1/2007, you wrote: > > Well, I'm not really in a position to say much about the PC version > > of Itunes as its been so long since I've put my "hands to the wheel" > > but I will say that its obvious that people are accessing Itunes with > > quite a bit of success and I should think that this is probably due > > to people "giving thing's a go" rather than just giving up, saying > > that you have to go through a whole lot of crap and making other such > > defeatest-type statements . > > That's the way of the software and computing world I'm afraid, > > nothing is ever going to be perfect so full credit to those who take > > the time to give products a go and write down their findings. > > Now strange as it may seem, Itunes was not accessible for the Mac at > > all up until very recently, in fact you could get more out of the PC > > version of Itunes than you could from the Mac version but still, > > people managed to use itunes with the Mac and the way it was used has > > been extremely well documented, again if you put the effort in you > > get the results out and this information was shared for the benefit > > of all. > > > > On 02/07/2007, at 9:38 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote: > > > > Well I'm not quite sure if it's *just* me, but > > from everything I've heard, iTunes works much > > better on the Mac than it does under windows. so, > > you Mac users, go for iTunes. I'll stick with what works for me > > personally. > > > > > > > > > > > > At 06:10 PM 7/1/2007, you wrote: > >> Yep, thankfully that's just you <smile>. > >> > >> On 02/07/2007, at 7:21 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote: > >> > >> Hmm. Think i'll stick to something like a zen > >> stone that doesn't require me to do all that crap > >> with getting JAWS to focus. just seems to me > >> there are much easier alternatives. But iTunes, > >> for some reason, knocks everyone out. I just don't see it, but that's > >> just me. > >> > >> > >> At 12:03 PM 7/1/2007, you wrote: > >>> Ok, this is from Tom Arvington and it was posted to the techno-chat > >>> mailing list. > >>> > >>> > >>> Begin forwarded message: > >>> > >>> Yes, Dane: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Heres what you need to do for ITunes with Jaws: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Lets start with the assumption that you have music or audible > >>> (audio > >>> book files) loaded into the ITunes Library. (You can use alt+F, D > >>> for this purpose.) > >>> > >>> Ensure that the ITunes browser setting is enabled use control+B as > >>> in boy to toggle this on and off. > >>> > >>> Press the enter key and then the space bar. You should then hear > >>> audio playing. If not, make sure to load something into the > >>> library. If there are entries in the library and no sound is > >>> forthcoming, exit ITunes and open it again. I believe it > >>> defaults to > >>> the MUSIC category unless you have an IPOD attached. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> If you recognize the name of the track that is playing, go ahead and > >>> press space bar again to stop the audio. With the Jaws cursor > >>> (numpad minus) locate the text of the title for the audio you heard > >>> playing. Hit insert+F2 and then press the letter C until you hear > >>> custom highlight assign. Then hit enter two or three times until > >>> the JFW dialogues go away. > >>> > >>> Now, you should be able to hear things spoken as you press the tab > >>> key. The focus changes from genre to artist to album etc. > >>> Normally, > >>> MP3 files and such fall under the main category of Music under the > >>> Library column. The Library column is at the left side of the > >>> screen > >>> I believe. If you know you have just played an MP3 file, find the > >>> word MUSIC below the upper left corner of the screen under the > >>> word Library, maybe two or three lines down depending on your > >>> display > >>> setting. With the Jaws cursor on the word MUSIC, press insert+f2 > >>> followed by the letter C until again you hear custom highlight > >>> assign. Press enter two or three times until the JFW dialogues > >>> close. Now, you should be able to hear the word MUSIC spoken two > >>> tab stops after the artist column. The edit field immediately after > >>> this column is the search field for material in the browser location > >>> the location is MUSIC at this point. Ill tell you more about > >>> the search function later if you want. 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