I'm under the impression that Noise Reduction comes with SF 9.  I haven't 
bought it as of yet.
Good luck.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


> Hi Gary. This has gone round and round a bit, so I completely understand
> your question. Ok, here's my story which I'll try to keep on topic. To be
> totally honest I have been unable to find a site where I can download a 
> full
> demo version of Sound Forge 8. What I'm seeing is that Sound Forge 8 demos
> aren't available because version 9 just came out. Meanwhile it's unclear 
> as
> to how accessible version 9 is. Further, from what I've been able to 
> learn,
> what I really need for what I want to do is Noise Reduction 2.0, wwhich,
> when sold separately costs $250 or more American. So, what I've learned is
> that seeking Sound Forge answers is far more complicated than I 
> experienced
> when I was learning about the plusses and minuses of GoldWave and DC6.
> Finally, if I can't demo a program first, I won't consider buying it. 
> That's
> pretty much where I stand on it right now.
>
> Larry
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 4:27 AM
> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>
>
>> I'm not following here.  What happened that led you to conclude that 
>> there
>> were no advantages using SF?  What version did you examine?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 4:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>
>>
>>> Hi Gordon. Unfortunately I don't have any suggestions to offer in that
>>> regard. This is why I'm looking at adding something else to my system.
>>> I'd
>>> like to continue using DC6, of course, but I'm also looking for 
>>> something
>>> that will allow me a bit more flexibility, both in adjusting filters and
>>> in
>>> automating certain restoration aspects. I considered Sound Forge, but
>>> aside
>>> from the filters added in with Noise reduction 2.0, I see no advantages
>>> for
>>> someone who works with records of all types as well as cassettes. I do
>>> use
>>> GoldWave a lot, but fI would like to see if there is something out there
>>> that will offer that sort of accessibility with a bit more speed.
>>>
>>> Larry
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 1:31 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>>
>>>
>>>>    Hi Larry
>>>> It's not the most intuitive but you have to use the Jaws Cursor. I 
>>>> don't
>>>> use
>>>> it much but when I have it's been easy to clean up and excite a file. 
>>>> If
>>>> you're used to DC6 you may just prefer using this and your experience 
>>>> of
>>>> which filter is good at which point. Mentor is just trying to automate
>>>> the
>>>> process. You click with the jaws cursor on the start button (sighted
>>>> help
>>>> may be necessary at first to label them) - once you're in the program
>>>> instructions are on screen and you click on the appropriate buttons.
>>>> After
>>>> a
>>>> few minutes of experimenting and understanding the logic of the buttons
>>>> you
>>>> can choose to clean with different recommended filters and to excite or
>>>> enhance with appropriate filters. If you like to tweak that's possible
>>>> too.
>>>> It's a good resource for bringing in files from external sources and
>>>> cleaning them fairly easily. Sometimes it's just better to use DC6
>>>> itself.
>>>> Can I ask you how you navigate long files in DC6. I tend to cut them in
>>>> Audition before loading them into DC6. I haven't found an easy way to
>>>> select
>>>> areas in DC6. Have you?
>>>> While working through the dialog boxes of filters is easy I also have
>>>> difficulty in using the multi filter option. It seemsto involve a bit 
>>>> of
>>>> dragging and dropping. I usually settle for using the presets which in
>>>> themselves are pretty good. Have you a way of using the multitab 
>>>> filter?
>>>> Regards.
>>>> Gordon
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 5:41 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Gordon, I did look at Audio Mentor, but couldn't make any sense of it.
>>>>> In
>>>>> many cases Window-Eyes and Jaws just spoke the word button. I could
>>>>> open
>>>>> an
>>>>> audio file, both the demo and one of mine, but couldn't seem to do
>>>>> anything
>>>>> with it. Is this an ap that should work with audio files right out of
>>>>> the
>>>>> box? LOL, maybe it's me, but I get more spoken feedback with DC6
>>>>> itself.
>>>>> And
>>>>> you're right, it's a fine audio editor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Larry
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 6:19 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>> If it's dC6 it's found on
>>>>>> www.tracertek.com
>>>>>> This site not only contains much software which is good for noise
>>>>>> reduction
>>>>>> but also much excellent equipment, usually with good offers.
>>>>>> Gordon
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 8:56 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>> Just in case it isn't obvious, do you have a site for it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:17 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's audio editing software. I like it a lot, though some on this
>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>> feel
>>>>>>>> that it isn't accessible.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:09 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> dc6?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 2:51 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I perform Audio Restoration on records and cassettes before
>>>>>>>>>>transferring
>>>>>>>>>> them to CD. As this is what I do professionally, I want to 
>>>>>>>>>> perform
>>>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>>>> tasks both quickly and with a level of precision that customers
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>> to expect. Will that aspect of Sound Forge work efficiently with
>>>>>>>>>> Window-eyes
>>>>>>>>>> without additional set files?  I am now using GoldWave and DC6 to
>>>>>>>>>> perform
>>>>>>>>>> such tasks and need to be sure that Sound Forge will increase
>>>>>>>>>> speed
>>>>>>>>>> andefficiency before going to the expense of buying it. Any
>>>>>>>>>> thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Jerry Richer" <        Com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:38 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     I use Sound Forge every day with Window Eyes and no set
>>>>>>>>>>> files.
>>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>> works fine for me but it depends on what you want to do.  Some 
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> dialogues I can't make any sense out of.  Most of the things I
>>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> don't want to use anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>
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