Ah, that makes sence then. Does audition incide on both lossi and losless formats? ah nevermind I'll find out.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 11:59 AM Subject: Re: Wma lossless Hi, There is a loss-less format of .WMA not just .WMA in general. The one you are speaking of is lossy and not lossless. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Wma lossless ctually I hear artifacting in wma files at 128kbps. How could that be losless? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 11:42 AM Subject: Re: Wma lossless Hi Andre. The answer to your question is - yes, WMA lossless is exactly that - completely free of any compression or psycho-acoustic dabbling. The sound quality is identical to that provided by the equivalent WAV file but the file size is smaller due to what is known as lossless compression, reduction in file size with no change to sound quality. With regards to the CBR versus VBR debate, this is subjective depending on what bit rates you wish to use. VBR is a technology that's all about attempting to retain quality but achieving a smaller file size so if you ripped at 320kbps CBR then you're not going to get better results using VBR - only smaller file sizes. However, if you really needed to compress your files due to lack of storage space then VBR will yield better results than CBR as it will calculate which frames in the MP3 or WMA file require the most bits and which can get away with less depending on the complexity of the music in that frame. A frame is generally a snippet of the music in the order of 0.02 seconds and so a track is made up of thousands of frames. VBR at it's highest quality setting will provide a better quality than VBR/ABR as the latter will attempt to keep a fairly constant line at the given bit rate chosen and so will have less to play with with regards to maintaining quality. You can make some errors when choosing VBR settings especially with rippers such as CDEX where you can change all of the lame encoder parameters without warning as to what the potential results might sound like. All of this is subjective and depends where you are going to listen to your music. If you're listening exclusively on a computer or portable device, you're not going to be able to tell the difference between say playing a CD on that computer and playing back a track ripped at quite a low bit rate. However, if you play back the files through a very good hi-fi system then you're going to want to hear all of the detail at the top and bottom ends of the music spectrum and so here's where lossless formats win hands down. Lossless is also the way to go if you're archiving your collection to ensure that you have the best available copy for future use. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "André van Deventer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 8:14 AM Subject: Wma lossless > Hi all > > With all the discussions about cbr and vbr, I have another question dealing > with the same type of issue. > > And again the answer may differ from person to person most probably! > > Is wma lossless really lossless where the quality of music is concerned? > > Just curious. > > Andre > > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. 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