Well, I took the plunge, bought Gold Wave, studied some and thought I'd experiment with recording a 4 side tape with it. I did, in stereo, (from a commercial dec) and as Denny says side 1 of the tape is sides 1 and 4, side 2 is sides 2 and 3, (from left to right respectively.) I recorded the whole cassette in Gold Wave, went to the edit menu, to channels, highlighted the right, "shift-control-r), went to effects, reversed, to volume in effects, to maximize volume at 90 percent, copied a segment of noise to the clipboard, ran noise reducing on the right channel, highlighted the left channel with control-shift-l, did the same processes with volume and noise reducing, (not reverse, <grin>) but now comes my dilemma. Since I had a channel highlighted, I figured to copy it entirely to the clipboard, make a new window in gold wave, mono one (unbounded) copy that channel, go back to my first file, highlight the other channel, go to the second file again, and copy that channel. When I do this in sound forge, it works, or in SF 5, for example, all I need do is highlight the entire file, copy it all, make a new file, (except a mono one) and when attempting to paste, SF asks, which channel do I want, left, right, or both? It worked, (sort of) in Gold Wave, except there was a huge amount of space between the additions, especially after I changed the playback sample rate from 44,100 to 22,050Hz to compensate for the half speed. I could not find where my "right" channel paste" began since, in the case of the first file, left and right channel were together at the same time, the left channel takes about an hour and 29 minutes, (44,100Hz, the right channel should also take that in the new file at 44,100Hz but no, after 1 hour 29 minutes, there was a huge amount of empty silence before the right channel (side 3) began in the new mono file. In SF8, if I go to the left channel only with tab, copy it to clipboard, go to a new "mono" file, paste it, go to my first file, press tab to highlight the right channel, paste it all to clipboard, go to my second file and paste that, the sounds are contiguously recorded. Why doesn't Gold Wave do that? When pasting a stereo file to a mono one, (which I wanted since I want the individual left/right channels to come out the center, I don't understand why the huge silences were also pasted since if I use control-shift-l for the left, and control-shift-r for the right, only those channels are being used. Is it a bug that I've found, or does anyone know? The noise reduction is quite decent, in fact, if you copy the correct stuff to the clipboard, (noise only like the beginning hiss of a tape just before the narrator speaks, about 2 seconds should be more than adequate) the noise is completely gone, as good as Sound Forge's NR plug-in especially for noisy cassettes, so I'd like to be able to do the rest. I dropped Q points for the ends of side 1, (44 minutes and 30 seconds) which is about what a NLS cassette does average, so, at 22,050Hz that'd be about an hour and 29 minutes per side, so, probably 5 hours and 58 minutes agrigate. I've recorded several hundred books in SF but now want to learn an efficient way to do it in GW. One thing, SF definitely takes less time to noise reduce, about 2 minutes and 10 seconds per 1 hour 29 second side, where GW took 12 minutes to do it on my 1.1GigaHz machine. hmm? I needd to do some more reading, also the scripts for JFW5.0 if someone has them for GW 5.12. Another thing GW does really nicely is batch processing, I mean, that is a real FORTE, makes real NICE *.ogg files, or *.mp3 files from the wavs. As of yet I haven't recorded a book in GW, I couldn't determine where my right channel was pasted in the second file, the "trim silence" didn't shrink the huge silences, so after a couple hours, gave up and went to bed, but I learned a good bit, that's for sure!
Curtis Delzer At 02:55 PM 1/9/2006, you wrote: >Hi curtis and list, > When recording a 4 track cassette such as with nls or recording for the >blind, remember that when working with a standard tape player, the sides are >a little bit different than on the special tape players that are issued. >You have sides 1 and 4 on the first side and sides 2 and 3 on the second >side. Sides 3 and 4 will play backwards on the right side of the tape. >That can be easily reversed in an audio editor. Also it is easy to slow the >audio to it's propper speed Talk to you later. >Denny >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Curtis Delzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 2:40 PM >Subject: markers, q points, the same? > > > > Thanks! I assume, (which could be dangerous) :) q points and > > "markers" are the same? Can GW write to regions as sf can between > > either q points or "markers" assuming these "regions" as SF calls > > them can be also given names to be written too? What I wish to do is > > to record an NLS cassette, and each side will be a region so each > > "region" will be called 01, 02, 03, 04, etc. SF gives the ability to > > not only name each region, but call it something besides E.G. book > > title followed by a dash, and then each region name puts it's own > > name like 01, 02, 03, etc. Thanks Bruce or anyone else who helps with > > this. I wish to give this a good look as well. > > > > > > > > > > Curtis Delzer > > > > > > At 01:30 PM 1/9/2006, you wrote: > >>In Gold Wave they're cue points. Control+q. > >> > >>Bruce > >> > >>-- > >>Bruce Toews > >>E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net > >>Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com > >> > >>On Mon, 9 Jan 2006, Curtis Delzer wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > Thank you for that, somehow when I did check which one I wanted to > >> > use, and then reloaded Gold Wave, it didn't show, but now it does. > >> > How do you make marks in a file while recording? In sf we press > >> > alt-m, how about GW? > >> > > >> > Curtis Delzer > >> > > >> > At 12:21 PM 1/9/2006, you wrote: > >> >> when in gold wave do the following. > >> >> do alt c for the effects menu, > >> >> now down arrow to plug in's sub menu and right arrow and then > >> find direct x > >> >> and enter there are your plug ins > >> >> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: "Marijan Janev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > >> >> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 1:53 PM > >> >> Subject: Re: gold wave and sf plug-ins or others? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>> Press alt+o to open the Option menu, arrow down to plug-ins, then > >> >>> right > >> >>> arrow and press enter on DirectX. > >> >>> Now you are in the list of all DirectX plugg-ins installed on your > >> >>> computer and you should chek only that you want to use in GW pressing > >> >>> space. Then tab to OK. > >> >>> Good luck! > >> >>> Marijan > >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >>> From: Curtis Delzer > >> >>> To: PC audio discussion list. > >> >>> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 7:22 PM > >> >>> Subject: gold wave and sf plug-ins or others? > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> I checked the plug-ins I wished to try in Gold Wave, now how do I get > >> >>> to them? 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