Hi Bruce.  Thanks for your take on this!  I think Premier CD Creator is $59, 
but I think that Nero and Easy CD Creator cost more than that!  Another 
thing:  Easy CD Creator has become less accessible with every new release, 
and Nero 7, from what I hear, is not very accessible at all.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: Premiere CD Creator


> Yes, at least in my opinion. I will say it one more time before I give
> this subject a rest. Since there are other products out there that require
> very little learning curve and perform the same or greater functionality,
> the only message I get from this product is that blind people need to be
> spoon-fed specialized software. I see very little benefit to anyone,
> beginningg or novice, in paying twice the price of an off-the-shelf
> program for limited functionality and an interface which is only
> marginally, if at all, simpler than other off-the-shelf interfaces. I have
> nothing against the company. I've seen a lot of their products and a lot
> of them serve a distinct purpose and I support them. But this product, I
> think, just costs new computer users unnecessarily and makes them think
> that they need a specialized program when they really don't.
>
> Bruce
>
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> On Sun, 1 Jan 2006, Gary Wood wrote:
>
>> Hi Bruce.  Is there any reason that a program like this shouldn't be out
>> there?
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>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 12:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: Premiere CD Creator
>>
>>
>>> Hard to make suggestions for a product which I believe should not be out
>>> there in the first place.
>>> Bruce
>>>
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>>> On Sun, 1 Jan 2006, Brian Olesen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> Instead of kritizising a product made especially for the blind we 
>>>> should
>>>> probably write the company with serious info about, what they should 
>>>> fix
>>>> to make the program the very best also for the advanced users.
>>>>
>>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards and happy new year.
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tyler Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 5:14 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Premiere CD Creator
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I use nero too. Is cd r win just as good as nero? If so, I'll stick 
>>>>> with
>>>>> nero instead. I liked roxios easy cd creater. I had version 4, but
>>>>> unfortuneately, when I got xp, I had to trash it and I ended up using
>>>>> xps
>>>>> burning utility until such time when I got real player, which I also
>>>>> like
>>>>> very much. I also like nero, especially for mp3 and dvds.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tyler
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 12:04 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Premiere CD Creator
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> No.  I think the company that makes CDRWin is goldenhawk or something
>>>>>> like that.  I downloaded a version once to look at but I was already
>>>>>> usuing nero so I stuck with that.
>>>>>> At 06:07 PM 12/31/2005, you wrote:
>>>>>>> Oh. Are you saying cd rw win isn't a worthwhile company?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tyler
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:44 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Premiere CD Creator
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have never used CDRWin.  I use Nero and I bought CD Premiere
>>>>>>>> Creator because I think there is a need for this kind of program 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> I try to support worthwhile companies.
>>>>>>>> At 02:56 PM 12/31/2005, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I remember when I used cdr WIN, it told me I needed a skuzzy 
>>>>>>>>> burner.
>>>>>>>>> Is
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> true?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tyler
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:02 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Premere CD Creator
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> With most of the major packages it can be set as a default.
>>>>>>>>>> At 01:07 PM 12/29/2005, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> CDRWIN has no gap between tracks by default. www.goldenhawk.com. 
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>> that with the other major products, this can be set, though I
>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>> if it can be made a default.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Michael Babcock wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> does this software, I have downloaded it, have the 2 second
>>>>>>>>>>> scilence between
>>>>>>>>>>>> tracks, and if so, can it be removed?
>>>>>>>>>>>> any one know of a good "free" or "cheap" software wich I can 
>>>>>>>>>>>> turn
>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>> feature on so I dont have the 2 second scilence between tracks?
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Nolan Crabb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:50 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Premere CD Creator
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian suggested that less advanced users could benefit from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Premier's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> CD
>>>>>>>>>>>>> creator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I absolutely agree, and thank you for reminding me of that.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> feel
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> certain degree of shame for those times when I forget that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>> really is
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> solid market for straightforward simplicity.  You're right
>>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hundreds of blind and low-vision folks who don't want all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> arcane
>>>>>>>>>>>>> techno-goop that can accompany more advanced CD creators, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Premier program does, in fact, create a CD as advertised.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> those occasions when I'm in a real hurry, want to just burn
>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mega-quick, and get on with other things.  I hope my previous
>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages
>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't imply that the program is a failure; indeed, it is far
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact, for the market for which it was designed, I think it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>>> quite
>>>>>>>>>>>>> well.  Thanks again, Brian, for reminding me of things I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have forgotten.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindest Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nolan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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