HI rob, Thanks for your kind words regarding the Winamp time markers. I love Winamp as you know but one thing I use to get frustrated with Winamp was the inability to resume from a spot in a file. Sure it had jump to time but this meant having to remember the time where you stopped the file. Now I haven't got a photographic memory so I often forgot the time to jump to and ended up having to skip through the file until I reached the spot I was last listening to. This wasn't too bad on a short audio book but when you got books that were hours in length then it became a bit annoying. Also the jump to time feature in Winamp meant that you could really only jump to one spot unless you were able to remember multiple spots to jump to or have these times written down. But I didn't want that so I asked my mate Andrew Hart to help me create the Winamp time markers. As we were creating the time markers, we also thought it would be neat to be able to give these time markers the ability to be able for a user to give each time marker a name. I thought this would especially be useful if you were exporting the time markers for an audio book and that way, you could give each time marker the name of a page or chapter or whatever. Your imagination is your friend here. Heaps of other uses for the time markers but I'll leave my ramblings here. Believe or not, I did try to create the same time markers for Wineyes as I also have that on my computer but somehow set file creation just don't cut it. Wineyes would be great if it even had a reasonable macro facility so you could at least bind a few non-wineyes keystrokes together. But that is for another list and another day.
David Truong E-mail and MS messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: blindboxer1967 Home Page: http://members.optusnet.com.au/davidtruong/ -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Hebert Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 2:24 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: The Good Old Days (Was Mp3 players) David, the time marker feature has been a very useful one for me. When I first began using net library their WMA files would not play in Winamp and placing a time marker using Real Audio or Windows Media Player was a rather more complicated and much less accurate task for a totally blind user. Therefore, I was very pleased when Winamp gave us the ability to play WMA files and thereby, co-incidentally, the ability to use your time marker facility in Winamp. I thank you for providing myself and others with these scripts. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Truong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 7:25 PM Subject: RE: The Good Old Days (Was Mp3 players) Hi There, The folllowing is from our Winamp scripts manual and describes the time marker features. The Winamp scripts include a feature that allows you to set, jump to and remove multiple audio bookmarks on your currently playing track from any of the Winamp Windows. You can also find out the elapsed, remaining and time length of the currently playing track. You can even export your time markers to "Time Marker Set" files (.tms files)and import time markers from .tms files into your Winamp time marker file file (winamp.tmf). Note: Winamp already has a bookmark feature which allows you to store favourite streams so you can go back to them later. To save confusion, the audio bookmarks are called "time Markers". The idea of time markers is to allow you to set a time marker in a currently playing track and then be able to come back later and have the track play from the point where the time marker was set. This way you can close Winamp, play another track or even if you get caught up on the phone etc., you will know that you won't have to start the track from the beginning again. You can also set more than one time marker in a track. The keystrokes are as follows and they can genrally be used from anywhere in Winamp. List of 7 items (contains 1 nested list) . m: Set a Time Marker. Sets a time marker on the currently playing track. There must be a track playing for it to work, but it will warn you that no track is playing if you try to invoke it when no track is playing. If a track is playing and you activate the set time marker command, you will be presented with a dialogue box and focused on an edit field where you can label the time marker to be set. Simply type the desired label and press enter. If you leave this field blank and press Enter, the time marker will still be set but without a label. After the time marker is set, Jaws announces the number assigned to the time marker and the time stamp of the position in the currently loaded track as well as announcing the optional label you gave it. For example, if you gave the time marker the label "chapter 3", and the positionin your file was 2 minutes and 30 seconds, you would hear Jaws announce "Time Marker3 set at 2 minutes and 30 seconds, Chapter 3". Due to technical considerations, the ability to label time markers is not available when using JAWS versions prior to Version 3.7. Note: You cannot use "m" to set time markers from within dialogs such as the open file or jump to file dialogs. There, the "m" key merely types the letter "m". To set a time marker, it is necessary to be in one of the Winamp windows such as the Playlist or Equaliser, etc. . Alt+Shift+m: Jump to Time Marker. This script does not require a file to be playing, but it must be able to determine which file you are wanting to play. If the file name is listed in the Winamp title bar, the script will grab it from there. Otherwise it will announce that there is no track ready to be played. If you have just opened a file in Winamp for the first time, but haven't played it, it's name won't appear in the Winamp title bar. To fix this, simply play and stop the file. Stopping the file is optional; playing it will cause its name to appear in the title bar and then the script will proceed. When you press Alt+Shift+m, the script will display a list box containing a list of all the time markers it has recorded for that track. Simply cursor through the list and press enter on the time marker you want to jump to. The script will say nothing after this, but playing will immediately skip to the selected time marker. If the file is not playing, it will start playing from the specified time marker. . control+Shift+m: remove time marker. This script must also be able to identify which track you are playing. It does this in the same way as the Alt+Shift+m script. A list box will be displayed containing a list of all the time markers recorded for the current file. To remove one, simply move to it with the arrow keys and press enter. The remaining time markers will be renumbered, etc. If you want to erase all the time markers, move to the last item in the list "Remove all time markers", and press enter. This will only delete all time markers for the current file, not all the time markers you have on your system. . Alt+Control+Shift+m: Export / Import time markers. This command allows you to export and import time markers into your Winamp time marker file. When the Export/Import time marker command is invoked with Alt+Control+Shift+m, you will be presented with a listbox containing 3 choices. They are: List of 3 items nesting level 1 . Export time markers for the current track. When invoked, you will be prompted to enter the name of the time marker set file to export your time markers to. Simply type in the desired file name without any extention. The extention ".tms" (time marker set) will automatically be added to the end of the file name. Then press enter. If you wish to cancil this operation, you can either leave the field blank and press enter or Press Escape to exit this dialogue box. Note, only the time markers associated with the currently loaded track will be exported to the time marker set file. . Import time markers for the current track. When invoked, you will be prompted to enter the name of the time marker set file to import your time markers from. Simply type in your desired file name without any extention. The extention ".tms" (time marker set) will automatically be appended to the file name. Then press Enter. If you wish to cancil this operation, you can either leave the field blank and press Enter or Press Escape to exit the dialogue box. Note, only the time markers associated with the currently loaded track will be imported from the time marker set file. . Import all time markers in a time marker Set file. When invoked, you will be prompted for a time marker set file (.tms) containing the time markers you want to import to your winamp.tmf file. Simply type in the desired file name without any extention. The extention ".tms" (time marker set) will automatically be appended to the file name. Then press Enter. If you wish to cancil this operation, you can either leave the field blank and press Enter or Press Escape to exit the dialogue box. This operation will import all of the time markers from the specified time marker set file regardless of what track is currently loaded. This is different from the "Import time markers for the current track" operation which only imports time markers associated with the currently loaded track. list end nesting level 1 Note, if you don't have any time markers set for the current track and you try to export / import time markers for that track, Jaws will notify you of this. Also, if Jaws thinks there isn't a track loaded, you will be notified of this as well. To insure that jaws knows for sure that a track is loaded, it is always a good idea to start the track playing, if only for a split second, and then stop it. This will insure that the export / import time marker functions work as they should. Note:Due to technical issues, if you are using a version of JAWS prior to 3.7, you will not be given the opportunity to type in a file name. In these older versions of JAWS, all exported time markers will be saved to the file winamp.tms in your JAWS settings directory and all imports will be read from this file. Thus, it will be necessary to rename any time marker set file you receive to winamp.tms and place it in your JAWS settings directory in order to import time markers from it. David Truong E-mail and MS messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: blindboxer1967 Home Page: http://members.optusnet.com.au/davidtruong/ -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brent Harding Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 12:32 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: The Good Old Days (Was Mp3 players) How does that feature work? I always tried to remember the time and end up forgetting. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Martineau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 5:20 PM Subject: Re: The Good Old Days (Was Mp3 players) > > > The time marker feature especially sets the Winamp scripts out and makes > this player more useful than any other. To further stir up the pot, then > I'll duck, while Window-Eyes offers numerous advantages, this is > functionality that Window-Eyes users will never have with Winamp because > their program's feature set is not extensible in this way. With those > scripts, Winamp is a joy to use. > > Dean > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. To see what other lists we > offer, visit us on the web at http://www.MosenExplosion.com > _______________________________________________ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. 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