Ah, it's those cyber chicken bones and shakers that work every time. Glad it's
working for you now.
Do you need any further information about the program?
I will contact you off list about your post to Angel and the extent of coverage
of the Music Store.
Clifford
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/31/2005 5:02:03 PM >>>
Clifford,
I don't believe it! You must have voodoo! Since you said it works for you, I
went ahead and tried again to trigger the "Burn your CD" button, in either
of the usual manners. When I press the space bar on the button, the player
starts, and not the burner, as before. But, when I press enter on the
button, the burn now begins! I don't know why it didn't before; I don't know
why it does now, aside from your voodoo. But it's working! Thanks!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clifford Blackwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: Very basic Real
Player/burningquestion(wasBurningwithRealPlayer)
I was referring to you Windows Explorer and right click approach. I hadn't
tried it that way before. I see that it works well.
What I find curious is your need to use the JAWS cursor. I can pretty much
do everything with the regular cursor and I have no problem triggering the
"Burn CD" button with the enter key or the space bar.
I tried this today on a machine using Jaws 5.1, Windows XP professional and
Real Player 10.5.
It is very sluggish especially in the beginning and in bringing up list and
tree views.
I will experiment a little more tonight on my Windows MI computer and see
what I can report tomorrow.
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/31/2005 12:59:49 PM >>>
Which steps are those, that you say I outlined.
Indeed, RealPlayer tries so hard to be an "all-in-one" media player that
it's user interfaces are more confusing than they need to be. And, many of
its functions are entirely video-related, and so not of much interest to
most blind folks. But I never found that to be a major drawback. Its major
drawback is how sluggishly JAWS responds in the Realplayer environment, and
how many of its functions require the use of the JAWS cursor, since a
keystroke alternative is not provided.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clifford Blackwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: Very basic Real
Player/burningquestion(wasBurningwithRealPlayer)
I should give a little credit to the accessibility unit at Real.com. When I
was trying to figure out how to use Real Player to transfer music to a
minidisc player, I contacted them and spoke extensively with one of their
techs who helped me emmensely to get a feel for how to use the program.
Part of the propblem, is that it can be used for some many different
functions including many, many, many that most blind folks have no interest
in. It would be nice if they were to come up with a less visual version,
but that's not likely.
In the instructions that I copied from the list, pay attention to the
reassignment of functions to avoid the key conflict. It is a problem from
within Real Player. The steps Dana outlined maybe a way around this.
Clifford
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/31/2005 11:58:40 AM >>>
Thanks a lot. I'll copy these instructions to a text file to study and
refer to, and do the same with whatever further guidance you're generous
enough to send my way. I'm relieved for you to acknowledge that the
interface isn't exactly friendly. It makes me feel a little less inept.
But as with other such things, just a good sense of how things work, and how
to move among the pertinent functions and controls with the Tab key and key
combinations usually gets it under hand, with a little practice. For most
such work, I'm thinking of getting myself a remaining copy of Easy CD/DVD
Creator 6 that I've been shown can still be found at Staples, among other
sources, for a nice, low price.
Again, thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clifford Blackwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: Very basic Real
Player/burningquestion(wasBurningwithRealPlayer)
Darned those fingers!
I meant option in the menus. I was trying to direct you to the activity
specific Help Files provided by Real PLayer.
Some of the functions that you have to tab to from the View menu are
duplicated in menu form in the Edit menu. I think particularly the "add
files" function.
I cannot sit down and do a real walk through right now, but I will do one
tonight and try to send it to you.
It is not a very friendly interface, but once you get used to it, it works
pretty well. It is a good way to transfer files to a minidisc player or to
an Ipod too.
I've taken the liberty of copying a "guide" posted on this list several
months ago that maybe helpful.
Let me know if I can help in any way. You helped me out once on another
list so I'm happy to return the favor.
BTW, I normally use Easy CD Creater version 4, 5 or 6 for most of my music
cd and data file creation. However, it is handy to know how to do this in
Real Player for converting tunes bought at the Real Music Store and for
transferring to other kinds of players.
Clifford
Hi all,
As promised, I have returned with instructions on burning CD's using
RealOnePlayer.
First, before you even open RealOnePlayer, there is a hot key conflict
which must be resolved between JAWS and RealOnePlayer. This hot key
conflict is in reference to two control plus keys; specifically, ctrl up
arrow and ctrl down arrow. Those of you us who use RealOnePlayer will
doubtless recognize these hot keys as the quick access keys for volume up
and volume down. The difficulty which arises from leaving these hot keys as
they are assigned is that they cause interference with the non contiguous
file selection process. In RealOnePlayer, when you wish to burn a disk from
files not part of a play list, the non contiguous file selection is the best
rule to apply rather than contiguous selection. This is because it is
possible to get feedback on whether or not a file has been selected for
burning while using the non contiguous selection method. To resolve this
hot key conflict between JAWS and RealOnePlayer, do this.
1. Open the default JFW key board manager.
2. Press R till you hear, "RealOnePlayer".
3. Now, arrow down till you get to the hot keys mentioned above.
4. Now, to change tthe first hot key, press ctrl H.
5. At this point, press the new hot key you wish to have assigned to the
function.
6. Now, tab to and press Ok.
7. You will be asked if you wish to confirm whether you wish to make this
change. Yes is the default so press enter here.
8. Now, press alt S to save this change and then press alt F 4 to exit.
At this point, you are ready to begin your burning session. Let's deal
first with burning CD's from files you select which are not part of a
RealOnePlayer play list.
1. Open RealOnePlayer in the normal manner.
2. Press alt T for Tools.
3. Press B for "burn CD.
4. At this point, you will notice that, for some reason, JAWS will tend to
lose focus from this window. Because of this, you will find that it is
necessary to use alt tab to get back to the main RealOnePlayer window and
then alt tab to get back to the "media" window. Do this.
5. Now, press enter on the media window in to which you just reentered.
6. Now, you will find yourself in a file window in to which you can select
files. Just tab to "add files" and press enter.
7. At this point, you will be placed in the "my Library window" which will
show you all the files stored in the "my Library" collection. Assuming
however, that you do not want to select files from this point, tab to and
press enter on "browse".
8. Having done this, you can now browse in the normal manner to the folder
in to which you have stored the files you wish to be burned.
9. Here is where you will find the non contiguous file selection rule to be
the best choice for file selection. Select all files you wish burned.
10. Now, press enter on Open".
11. Now, you will find yourself in the CD burning window. This would be a
good time to put the blank disk in.
12. Wait about 30 seconds or so while RealOnePlayer detects the blank disk
and what kind it is. Then start tabbing threw the window.
13. You will notice that the first thing you will come to is the disk type
window. This is the point at which you determine the type of CD you wish to
burn. The "audio" choice will cause all files you have selected to burn on
to the disk in such a manner that they will play in any regular CD player.
The Mp3 choice will cause all files to be converted to MP3's, and so forth.
Make the choice you wish by arrowing to it.
14. Now, if you tab over, you will get to the options page. This is the
page at which you can control how a Cd is burned. You can have
RealOnePlayer insert a blank space of two seconds between tracks, cross fade
between tracks or leave no blank space at all. Make the choice you want
using the arrow keys.
15. Just tab threw the other controls making your selections as you wish
and then tab to and press Ok.
16. If you use a rewritable CD, "erase CD" will be within the burn window.
Otherwise, you may want to tab over to "driver options". Press enter on it.
17. Now, From this point you can make your driver use what is called "track
at once" (known as Tao) burning or "disk at Once" (Dao burning) Disk at
Once, which is the default in RealOnePlayer burns the disk in a single
session and then finalizes the disk and then, depending upon whether you've
set it up, ejects the disk after each burn. With in this window, you can
also select the burn speed you wish. Note that burn speeds are dependent
upon drive burning speed as well as the burn speed allowed by the disk in
the burner. Selecting "fastest available" will always choose the fastest
burn speed with out your having to select a burn speed manually. Make all
the choices you want here and press "ok".
18. Now, after pressing Ok, You may want to check using your JAWS cursor
to see your file list view. All your files should be selected, and, the
phrase "ready to burn" should appear by each one.
19. Now, at long last, tab to and press enter on "burn CD".
You will notice, to your delight, that a progress bar will show you the
percent of each file which has been burned on to disk and which files are
still pending. When done. Enjoy your disk.
Ok. Now for the process of how to burn CD's using a RealOnePlayer play
list. Don't worry, the steps are shorter for this one. That's because
we're working with a play list this time.
1. Open RealOnePlayer in the normal way.
2. Press alt V for "View".
3. Press L for "my library".
4. Now, arrow to the play list you wish to burn. Do not press enter here.
5. Now, tab to "copy to". Press enter on this.
6. This would be a good time to insert the blank disk.
7. Again, wait for about 30 seconds or so for detection.
8. Now, up arrow once only. Note that JAWS won't say anything when you do
this.
9. Now, Press enter.
10. When you here, "media window", press enter. You will notice that JAWS
does not lose focus when you do this.
11. You will again find yourself in a window where you can select files.
However, sense you all ready have chosen to burn a play list, just tab to
and press enter on "close this window".
12. Now, burn your CD by tabbing to "burn CD" as before and pressing enter
on it.
Note that the CD burning feature of RealOnePlayer is a premium feature
which comes with the paid for version and this feature is not available to
users of the free version of this program.
Hope that helps.
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hi,
Thanks. I think you had a Jaws problem at one point, as I often do, and
didn't realize what you'd typed. Could you tell me what you meant to say by
"opiton in the nemus?"
Thanks. I have been in the functin to browse and direct Real Player to a
folder. I "saw" that and did it. But I keep getting lost tabbing around
trying to figure out how to complete a sequence, or know where I am. I just
don't understand why all those controls, list boxes and everything just keep
appearing no matter what I do, or think I've nearly finished doing. Hard to
explain. Very frustrating. I think I wish there were screen reader
instructions somewhere for it. No matter how many nice people explain these
functions to me, I keep getting lost trying to perform them.
anyu
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clifford Blackwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: Very basic Real Player/burning question
(wasBurningwithRealPlayer)
In Real player, if you click on the Burn/Transfer button, you'll get a
pretty good "How to..." opiton in the nemus.
In the File menu there is an option for Real Player to find all the music
files on your computer. It doesn't move them, but creates links to them
from within Real Player.
If you want to navigate to the files in your My Music folder in the burning
process, click on the Browse button when selecting from where you want the
files.
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/29/2005 1:06:02 PM >>>
I see. Thanks. Still, I guess you have to read some instructions in Real
Player to learn how to direct the Library where to look on your hard drive
for its music files, so that you can then use the burn function, and so
forth. Under which topic in the Help documentation is this instruction
found? Is that how you learned to use the Library when instructed to (for
burning, for example)? By reading Help instructions?
thanks.
o he msuic
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: Very basic Real Player/burning question (was Burning
withRealPlayer)
The My library option is simply a way of organizing the media files on your
pc in to groups. What I have done is to tell Realplayer where to search for
media files and every so often my library is updated. This would mean that
if I put more music files on the pc with whatever program I could find them
easily by using the my library function. It's a cataloging function for
media files.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 1:07 PM
Subject: Very basic Real Player/burning question (was Burning with
RealPlayer)
Pardon me for asking a really elementary question here. But I tried to
explore both Windows Media Player and Real Player to see if I could take
advantage of their capability to burn a music CD from .mp3 tracks stored in
the subfolders of my c:\my music folder. Which is where you select such
files from if you're using a stand-alone program such as CDRWIN, Premier CD
Creator and others.
Well, I couldn't understand how you're supposed to use the Library for this,
in Real Player, for instance. What's the Library? Is it a special storage
area for audio files that you have to set up specially in Real Player, and
which doesn't correlate at all to your audio files on your hard drive in
c:\My Music? Is it sort of inextricably connected with things like building
playlists and such, which I haven't learned to do in either one of these
players, nor in Winamp, which I think has similar capabilities?
thanks. As I said, I know this is a really basic questing, so I'm hoping
for a clear, end-user level of explanation, not trying to get into complex
technical details or anything like that.
In other words, if I wanted to use Real Player as the way to burn CDs, would
I have to learn all about the Library, and create special files there, and
so forth, in order to do this? it's all sort of self-continued, rather than
just getting music files off your hard drive?
thanks a lot,
Daniel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: Burning with RealPlayer
Yes. Just make sure your library is set up right before you do this. Hit
the alt-v key and choose burn-transfer. When you pick it you can choose
what you want from your library and tell it that you want to burn a cd(do
that first) and click burn cd. Oh, you need to tell it what kind of cd.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC-Audio" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 12:17 PM
Subject: Burning with RealPlayer
> For a few days now, I've been downloading tracks from the RealPlayer 10
> Music Store, burning them to CD - which has to be done in RealPlayer
> Premium - , and ripping them off as .wav files. It's been working well,
> and the quality of the tracks is excellent! But I have one major problem
> (aside from the cost <grin>). When the tracks I want to burn are loaded in
> RealPlayer and ready to be burned, the "burn your Tracks" button has to be
> click with the JAWS cursor, and it's rather hard to find in JAWS cursor
> mode. Does anyone know of an easier way to start a burn in RealPlayer 10?
> Is there a key stroke, or something else I don't know about?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Blessed Be,
>
> Dana
>
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