I use Stereo mix and I use headphones with a microphone built in. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Erkens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 11:02 PM Subject: Re: Recording Skype calls in Goldwave
> No matter what you want to record, in fact you can choose from a number of > options. > > First, if you want to record audio coming from the internet, wether it be > skype calls complete with ringing and hangup signals or just a radio > shoutcast stream, then it is always possible to connect your cassette > recorder to your soundcard and start recording. However, this method > requires that you shut off any windows sounds and the speech coming from > your access software. Everything coming from your soundcard goes on tape. > > Another option is to use the "what u hear" setting in your soundcard and > record off it. To make this work, you can go into your windows sound setting > (start -> programs -> accessories -> entertainment -> volume control) and > tweak your sound card as follows. > > What is often unknown is, that the windows volume control applet really > consists of two distinct parts: one fader set for playback and another, > different fader set for recording. The playback panel shows up when you > first open volume control. There you have the slider for the master volume > all the way to the left, followed by all other sliders that are configured > to show up from there, over to the right. In this playback panel, every > slider has its own checkbox beneath it called "mute" that, when enabled, > will shut off any sound coming from that audio source. > > A few things are noteworthy here. First: if you see a slider for your > microphone in the playback panel, the checkbox below it labeled "mute" > should be checked, on. If it is off, then you'll hear the sound that goes > into your microphone directly come out of your speakers again. I don't know > the English term for the effect this may cause, but it may result in very > loud and uncomfortable noises. While all other sliders in the playback panel > should be unmuted, your microphone should be muted in the playback panel. > > Second: if you wonder what source actually produces the speech coming from > your Jaws' synthesizer, it is the "wave" slider. If you turn that down by > tabbing to it and continuously pressing down arrow, it will gradually fade > softer. The wave source also produces all sounds that come from windows, for > example when it starts up, and it is also the source of winamp, realplayer, > windows media player etc. Only audio cd's and midi files come out of a > different source. > > > The recording panel in windows volume control can be opened by entering the > pulldown menu at the top by pressing and releasing alt. This will open the > leftmost menu from the pulldown bar. Whereas most programs have a file menu > at the very left of the pulldown menu bar, windows sound control calls this > menu "options". Just arrow down until you reach "properties" and press enter > to open the dialog. > > In this dialog, you can do two basic things. You can switch from playback > panel to recording panel, and/or you can configure which faders (sliders) > you want to have visible in each of the panels. This works as follows. > > When the dialog opens (after you press enter on properties on the "options" > menu), you are in a listbox that lets you select for which of your > soundcards you want to configure the playback and/or recording panels. Just > arrow up and down to select your current device. If you have only a single > soundcard installed, then this choice is already set correctly. press tab to > move on to the next item in the window. > > This is a set of radio buttons, that can be selected using up and down > arrow. This group of radio buttons allows you to select which panel to > configure: playback or recording. After making your selection, tab on once > more. > > Now you are in a special kind of list box. While arrowing up and down, you > may notice that each individual item can be toggled on or off by pressing > space bar. This listbox shows all possible sliders that can be shown or > hidden for each panel. For playback, select all audio sources to be turned > on as far as you are using them. I mean: turning on an audio source you are > never using, only introduces hiss in your audio which is what you don't > want. After selecting the faders you want to show up for the given panel, > tab on and you'll land on the OK button. > > Now, the listbox I just mentioned contains the control that is mostly called > "what you hear", or "stereo mix". This is a special kind of audio source, > only useful in the recording panel slider set. To understand how to use it, > think of this. > Many audio sources can be played back simultaneously, but only one can > normally be recorded from. Only if you use the "what you hear" audio source > as your recording source, you'll be recording the combined audio signals > that are played back at any time by your soundcard. The what you hear source > is almost ideal for recording audio from the internet, but as mentioned > above, it has the same final effect as recording on cassette tape, because > everything coming from your soundcard is sent to your audio recording on > disk. > > After pressing spacebar on the OK button, you'll see the requested panel, > showing only those sliders that you turned on. > > In the recording panel, each slider does have its own checkbox beneath it, > but it has rather a different meaning than in the playback panel. While the > checkbox below every slider mutes the source in the playback panel, the > checkbox in the recording panel selects that audio source to be the source > you are recording from. But there is some strange behaviour in this dialog. > If you turn one checkbox on, all others go unchecked automagically. This is > useful, because only one audio source can be recorded from at any time. > However, > I've often wondered why Microsoft didn't choose a set of radio buttons > instead of checkboxes. But that's a detail which is not very important in > this context. > > To use all this in daily life, you can go along like this. First, tidy up > your playback panel by removing any faders that you'll never be using. > Turning off one fader automatically removes its mute check box as well. > > Then tidy up your recording panel by only showing the slider you want to > record from. Make sure that the checkbox beneath it is checked, so that the > source is really selected as the input when you start recording. If you want > to use the what you hear mixer recording input, that's fine. > > Next, ensure that the slider of your recording source is half way (50%) up. > Sliding it too high will make your recording clip, while a too low setting > will result in a too soft sounding recording with a lot of acompanying > noise. > > When you're done configuring the windows volume control, close it by > pressing alt+f4. There is no OK button here that would normally let you out > of the current dialog, so you must use alt+f4 and you can be sure that > windows remembers all your settings. This is only true for the volume > control in windows. If you normally press alt+f4 from within a dialog, > you'll simply close that window without saving your changes in it. > > Now, start your recording software and make sure it is recording. > > Next, start your internet source, i.e. skype, your shoutcast stream or > whatever, and it will glide into your hard drive. After your source > finishes, or if you close it because you've had enough, alt+tab back to your > recording software and stop the recording. Play or save your work as you > like. > > But the third, and in my opinion the very best option to choose if you want > to record internet audio, is buy a cheap piece of software called "total > recorder". It is an accessible bit of software, that lets you record > anything from the web straight into a wav, or even directly into an mp3 > file. Total recorder has extremely good help under f1. Using total recorder, > it is easier than ever before to record from the web. Start total recorder > and make it record and then start your internet audio source. > > A few features of total recorder that you will appreciate. If the internet > source cannot feed its data into your computer fast enough, because you have > a slow or busy internet connection, then total recorder can eliminate all > pauses and gaps in the audio. So while listening and recording you'll hear > the gaps, but while playing back the recorded file you won't hear the gaps > anymore because total recorder seemlesly stops recording immediately as soon > as it notices the stream is temporarily silent and it resumes without any > ill effects as soon as the audio comes back again. > > Also, total recorder lets you record any source without having to shut off > jaws or all your windows sounds, because it has a configuration option that > automatically fixes these things for you when you start recording. > > Another nice thing I've noticed is, that total recorder has a pre-recording > buffer for us to use. Imagine you want to start recording immediately as > soon as the internet DJ opens his mouth. If you sit and wait until that > happens, you'll be too late if you then press the record button because > you'll miss out on the first few tenths of a second of his speech. The > pre-recording buffer is a feature that constantly records half a minute in > the background, and if you press record, it will prepend what it recorded > before the point where you pressed the record button. So you don't have to > worry about exact timings anymore. Just sit back and relax and as soon as > you want to start recording, press record. Everything from this point on > will be in your audio file, but also the 30 seconds that were before the > moment you pressed record. Of course, you can configure the length of your > pre-recording buffer. > > I don't get paid by total recorder or so, but I just think it is a wonderful > piece of software, very usable for the blind. It is about 12 dollars or so, > on www.highcriteria.com . > > If you have questions, just mail. If I can answer, I will. > > Kind regards from Holland, > Paul. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 9:35 PM > Subject: Re: Recording Skype calls in Goldwave > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > You can do it with one sound card provided you don't have software > > speech running. When you say they can hear jaws below this assumes you > > are using jaws and it further assumes you are using software speech. > > YOu can do it with one sound card provided your screen reader regardless > > of which it is is using hardware speech. Or if not, then two sound > > cards are in order. > > > > > > shawn klein said the following on Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 12:26:40PM -0800: > >> Um, guys, you need 2 sound cards to record skype > >> calls. Unless all you want to do is record yourself > >> talking. Whatever goldwave is set to record, whether > >> it be the mike input, or stereo mix, is what skype > >> will be picking up from your side and sending to the > >> other party. If you try to record the people you're > >> talking to with stereo mix or what you hear, all > >> they'll hear is your Jaws, and their own voices > > > > - -- > > I always pass on good advice. It is the only thing to do with it. > > It is never any good to oneself. > > -- Oscar Wilde, "An Ideal Husband" > > - -- Raul A. 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