Hi David.

No, I don't have any knowledge of comprehensive guides for all 3 players.
I've basically installed all 3 and set winamp to play the majority of
formats that I'm interested in.  The other two just kick in when needed.

I do have some notes on winamp that I will paste below; otherwise, it's a
case of coming to the list with any specific questions you may have about
either player and hoping someone can help.

I would suggest though installing the latest versions of all programs for
best results.  When installing the latter versions of winamp, make sure you
uncheck modern skins, virtualisations and winamp agent when you go through
the install.  All of these options are checked by default and none are of
any use.

Introduction



On the face of it, Winamp from Nullsoft may not seem like a terribly
accessible  programme. Although the interface from the keyboard is somewhat
unorthodox, you'll find that Winamp is in fact one of the most accessible of
the fully featured MP3 players. This section seeks to help you understand
what Winamp can do, how to configure it, and  all the keyboard secrets will
be revealed.



You can get a brief keyboard summary of all of the keyboard commands
mentioned in  this document by pressing F1 from the

Winamp main window. From there, you can press control+tab through the
multipage dialogue box until you get to the tips and tricks section. If you
left

click your mouse on any of the text of the edit box, this will give that
read-only edit box focus, which means that you can then read the summary
with your screen reader's continuous reading feature. You can also go to the
top of this edit box with the control+home combination, press
control+shift+end

to select the entire edit box (control+A doesn't seem to work) and then
press control+C to copy it to the clipboard. You may then want to paste this
into

a word processor or text editor and save it for future reference.



Full help, much of it describing visual techniques but some of it helpful,
is now available on the Winamp site.

A screen reader friendly version of this help is available here_.



Winamp is a fully featured audio player, supporting most common file
formats. If a file format isn't supported out of the box, chances are you
can get a

plug-in that will do the job.



It has a playlist editor allowing you to import individual files, entire
directories and locations from the Internet. Files can then be randomised,
or sorted

by a number of criteria including song name and file name.



A graphical equaliser allows you to make major adjustments to the sound of
the player. You can choose from presets, save your own settings, and even
specify

your own settings on a song by song basis. The ID3 editor allows you to edit
MP3 tag information, which is a handy way of recording information such as

the album, the artist, the year the song was released and more.



The plug-in architecture of Winamp means that fantastic add-ins are being
released regularly, ranging from the support of many file formats through to
pitch

changers and audio compressors.



Basic Winamp Operation



When you install Winamp, you are asked if you want it to be your default
audio player. If you answer yes to this question, Winamp will be launched
from

Windows Explorer or Internet Explorer when a file that Winamp supports is
encountered. The file will start playing automatically.



You can also launch Winamp by going to the Start menu, choosing programmes,
then Winamp.



When in Winamp, the following commands can be used for playback. Note that
some of the keypad commands listed here may conflict with your screen
reader.

You will need to change your screen reader's key settings or use its bypass
key if you wish to use the keypad in Winamp.



X or Keypad 5 will play the current file. If Winamp is paused, this command
will resume playing from where you paused. If no file is loaded into Winamp,

you'll be prompted for a file name.



The V key stops playing. If you hold down the shift key, Winamp fades out
the currently playing song and then stops. If you hold down the control key
while

pressing the stop key, Winamp will stop at the end of the currently playing
file.



B or keypad 6 skips to the next track. You can do this either when Winamp is
playing or when it is stopped. If you are playing a file when you press this

key, the next song in the queue will start playing immediately. If you press
the key when Winamp is stopped, the song you have now selected will show in

the window title with the word "stopped" beside it.



Z or Keypad 4 skips back to the previous track. The same rules apply as for
next track discussed above.



Keypad 1 will jump ten songs back in the playlist.



Keypad 3 jumps ten songs forward.



Left-arrow or keypad 7 rewinds by 5 seconds.



Right-arrow or keypad 9 fastforwards by 5 seconds.



L or keypad 0 brings up the open file dialogue. Here, you can specify the
name of a file provided Winamp supports the file format. You can also
specify

a playlist with a .m3u or .pls extension.



Control+L or control+keypad 0 lets you specify a file on the Internet. You
will need the full URL of the file or playlist.



Shift+L or the insert key lets you specify a directory to play. All files in
that directory with file formats that Winamp supports will be played.



Keypad 8 or up-arrow increases the volume.



Keypad 2 or down-arrow turns the volume down.

\



Configuring Winamp



Winamp is highly configurable. This section seeks to help you understand how
to navigate Winamp's Preferences.



To enter the preferences, press control+P. Winamp will present you with a
treeview. As in any treeview, you use the right-arrow key to expand a branch
of

the tree, the left-arrow to close a branch, and the down-arrow to navigate
through items in the tree. Once you've selected a section, you can use the
tab

and shift+tab keys to navigate through the various elements.



When you get to the section for selecting and configuring plug-ins, it is
important to understand that after you have selected the plug-in with the
arrow

keys, there is often a configure button which allows you to fine-tune the
settings for that particular plug-in. Normally, you need to press the tab
key

to find the configure button. Pressing the space bar will bring up the
configuration dialogue box for that plug-in.



The Playlist Editor



The Playlist Editor is one of Winamp's less accessible features, but there
is more that you can do with the keyboard than many people think. The major
difficulty

is that with most screen readers, using the arrow keys in Winamp 2.x will
not give you reliable information about the song that you've selected. This
problem

has been overcome for users of Windoweyes and JFW, thanks to some clever set
and script file writing. These sets and scripts are available in ACB Radio's

download section. If you're going to work with the Playlist Editor, these
sets and scripts are a must! Anyway, let's take a look at what you can do
with

the keyboard. Firstly, you will want to get into the Playlist Editor. If the
Playlist Editor window isn't open yet, you will need to open it by pressing

alt+E. Incidentally, once windows such as the Playlist Editor are open, you
can cycle through all open windows with the control+tab combination. The
Winamp

menu, which you can access with the alt key and choosing Winamp, will also
show a checkmark beside those windows that are open.



The R key toggles the repeat function. I have always had difficulty
determining the status of the repeat function from the Playlist Editor
window itself,

but you can also toggle the repeat function from the main Winamp Menu, which
can be accessed from the main Winamp window with the ALT key, and then
choosing

playback options. Here, your screen reader should have no trouble telling
you whether repeat is checked or not.



The S key toggles whether shuffle is on or off. The same applies here as for
the repeat function.



L or keypad 0 adds a file to the playlist.



Control+L or control+keypad 0 adds an Internet location to the playlist.



Shift+L or the insert key adds a directory to the playlist.



Control+N clears the playlist and lets you start from scratch.



Control+O lets you open a playlist you might previously have saved to disk.



Control+S saves the playlist you've been working on. You have a number of
formats from which you can choose once you open the save dialogue. Alt+3
views

the track information for the selected track or tracks.



Control+E lets you edit the names of the selected track or tracks. Control+A
selects the entire playlist.



Control+I inverts the selection, in other words what was selected becomes
unselected and vice versa.



The delete key removes selected files from the playlist.



Control+delete crops the playlist.



Control+shift+delete clears the playlist.



Alt+down-arrow moves selected files down.



Alt+up-arrow moves selected files up.



The down and up-arrow keys move the cursor down and up respectively.



The ENTER key plays the selected file.



The home and end keys jump to the start and end of the playlist
respectively.



Page up and page down move up and down by a fifth of a page.



Alt+delete removes all non-existent files from a playlist.



Control+shift+1 sorts the playlist by title.



Control+shift+2 sorts the playlist by file name.



Control+shift+3 sorts the playlist by file path and name.



Control+R reverses the order of the playlist.



Control+shift+R randomises the playlist.



Also, all playback controls are available as they are in the main window.



Graphical Equaliser



Although I have not heard of anyone being able to set up their screen reader
to tell them the percentage of each band of the equaliser in Winamp 2.x, you

can make changes via the keyboard and listen to the results to see how you
like it. Also, control+s brings up a list of over 20 presets that you can
choose

from.



First though, you'll need to open the graphical equaliser if it isn't open
already. You can do this with the alt+G combination.



The 1 and 0 keys increase their respective band of the ten band equaliser. 1
is the lowest band IE base, 0 is the highest band, IE treble. The row
underneath

decreases each band, from the q to the P keys. So 1 and Q turns the lowest
band up and down respectively, 0 and P turns the highest band up and down
respectively.



Similarly, the tilde and tab keys turn the pre-amp up and down respectively.



The N key toggles the equaliser on and off, so if it doesn't sound like what
you are doing with the number and qwerty rows is having any effect, try
pressing

the N key to turn the equaliser on.



S opens the presets menu.



The A key toggles auto-loading of the equaliser.



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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Hardingham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 2:03 AM
Subject: Re: Playing Real Audio content


> hi Kevin, do you or any one else know of a comprehensive tutorial on using
> all this stuff.I get so confused, not unusual I am afraid.David
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 4:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Playing Real Audio content
>
>
> > The latest recommendations coming from the winamp for the blind list is
to
> > install real player 10 or 10.5, windows media player and winamp 5.05.
> >
> > All co-exist quite nicely these days and each can be configured only to
> play
> > what you want them to play.
> >
> > I personally have all of these programs installed and have no problems.
> >
> > The Tara plug in is well out of date and threads on this now unsupported
> > plug in just don't go anywhere.
> >
> > Kevin
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> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Dean masters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 7:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: Playing Real Audio content
> >
> >
> > > Is there a tara plug in that works with the latest version of Winamp?
> Will
> > > Real Alternative play the latest Real content files?
> > >
> > > Dean
> > > I personally know someone who literally is older than dirt.
> > > If you would like to meet him, please write to me
> > > or join us on the Masters List:
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> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Aman Singer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 6:02 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Playing Real Audio content
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi.
> > > > You'll need two programs to play Real audio in Winamp, not just Real
> > > > Alternative. You need the Tara plug-in for Winamp as well as Real
> > > > Alternative. Download Tara from
> > > > http://www.free-codecs.com/download_soft.php?d=349&s=221
> > > > and Real Alternative from
> > > > http://whitestick.co.uk/progs/realalternative127.exe
> > > > Be sure that all versions of Real player are uninstalled from your
> > > > system when you install Real Alternative.
> > > > Aman
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "doug leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 4:17 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Playing Real Audio content
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >I tried a Google on "reo alternative layer" to no avail!!!!
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "janet smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 3:49 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Playing Real Audio content
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>o you could also get reo alternative layer wich i think is better
> then
> > > reo
> > > >
> > > > >>player.
> > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >> From: "Aymeric Vildieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PC
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> > > > >> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 2:45 PM
> > > > >> Subject: Re: Playing Real Audio content
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Hi Doug!
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> winamp canot play real audio content. I saw a plug-in once
> allowing
> > to
> > > > >>> read real audio content but I would never guarantee that it
works.
> > > > >>> Anyway we can find nothing on the plug-in section of winamp.com.
> > > > >>> it ahs to do with copyright and pattent issues. so I think
you'll
> > have
> > > > >>> to bear with real player to play real content
> > > > >>> At 15:30 31/10/2004 -0500, doug leavens wrote:
> > > > >>>>If I install Real Player 10, and already have Winamp 5.05
> installed,
> > > > >>>>will winamp play real audio content?
> > > > >>>>Or are there other steps I must take?
> > > > >>>>Thanks in advance.  I know this must sound pretty basic to some
of
> > > you,
> > > > >>>>but, please be patient!
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