Hi Kevin.  As stated before, I'm trying to learn how to burn CD's.  My
brother copied ten MP3 CD's for me that he got from a friend.  In comparison
with some songs that I have on music CD's, I didn't find much difference
between how those songs on the music CD's sounded with those same songs that
were on the MP3 CD's I have now.  When I copied my music to the harddrive
with CDex, I did have the bit rate at 128 k.  From what I heard, I also
didn't seem to frind much difference in sound quality from the original
recordings.  If I were to make copies of music CD's, I wouldn't see much
point to that, since I already have the originals.  The advantage of
converting songs to MP3 CD's for me would be that I could save a lot of
shelf space, or else have even more room for MP3 CD's.  I counted the songs
in one of those MP3 CD's I have.  You're supposed to be able to fit 200
tracks on one of those, but I only counted 140 songs.  Most of those were
MP3s, but some were WMA files.  If you can conceivably put ten hours of
music on an MP3 CD, at what bit rate would that be at?  I set my CDex to rip
at 128 K, as I said before.   But I also use variable bit rate (VBR).  I had
that set to 9.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: which is better format


> Hi Gary.
>
> You've probably seen Bruce's note on music sound quality and I'd agree
with
> him 100%.  Any music compressed to MP3 will suffer some degradation in
sound
> quality.
>
> However, WAV files don't support MP3 tag id's and are a little unwieldy
for
> today's portable players so if you want to take a lot of music with you or
> you just want a large collection of music on your hard drive with tags
then
> MP3, encoded at a high bit rate, is probably not a bad compromise.
>
> I've read a lot of statistical analysis on frequency range and sound
quality
> testing with various MP3 encoders and the Lame encoder is very highly
rated
> in this field.
>
> 128kbps is generally regarded as alittle too low for good music quality
but
> is obviously great because the file size is about as low as you would
really
> want to go.  I've always been surprised that the companies selling music
> downloads sell music at this bit rate to be honest.
>
> With regards to frequency range alone, I've seen many analysis reports
that
> measure 256kbps as just about meeting the CD frequency range and so
320kbps
> is probably not going to yield much more in that respect but if you've got
> the disc space, why not.
>
> Even ripping a CD to WAV files will incur some degradation in quality but
as
> Bruce pointed out, it's all about how high fidelity your player is and how
> good your hearing is that needs to be considered.
>
> Kevin
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 11:30 PM
> Subject: Re: which is better format
>
>
> > Hi Kevin.  I have my CDex set to 128 K.  I thought that was supposed to
be
> > CD quality.  Maybe I'm not sure, but when I went into Soundforge, it
> classed
> > 128 K as CD quality.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 4:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: which is better format
> >
> >
> > > Hi Ron.
> > >
> > > This is a pretty loaded question as there are many factors and
> preferences
> > > to be taken into account.
> > >
> > > Personally, I rip using the Lame MP3 encoder at 320kbps.  This gives
me
> as
> > > close to CD quality as possible and I have plenty of hard disc so
don't
> > have
> > > to worry about file sizes.
> > >
> > > I do have a portable player so if I need to load more music than it's
> > modest
> > > 10GB hard disc will take, I use CDEX to re-encode down to a level that
> I'm
> > > happy with, for example 192kbps.
> > >
> > > As I always keep the 320kbps masters which I've cleaned up and set
> volumes
> > > to be the same, there's no great loss in quality in re-encoding down
to
> a
> > > lower bit rate to my portable player when required.
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ronald Glaser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 7:17 PM
> > > Subject: which is better format
> > >
> > >
> > > what is the better format between
> > > windows media 9 loss less  aug and mp3 or mp4
> > > Ron
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