Philip Sheard said (on or about) 04/30/2009 12:05:
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> It is sad to see a good system die. This is the perfection of Zen -- 
> life and death in one act.
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Does that make a stillbirth the ultimate goal?


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There are three things that keep one from God. They are kam, krodh, and 
kanchan, i.e. lust, anger, and greed. Lust and greed may be overcome, 
but the control of the temper is the hardest of all. If you overcome 
these three enemies, you are a vali (saint), a person who controls kam, 
krodh, and kanchan.

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