On 18 Jul 2014, at 5:16 pm, Vladislav Bogdanov <bub...@hoster-ok.com> wrote:

> Hi Andrew, all,
> 
> I have a task which seems to be easily solvable with the use of
> globally-unique clone: start huge number of specific virtual machines to
> provide a load to a connection multiplexer.
> 
> I decided to look how pacemaker behaves in such setup with Dummy
> resource agent, and found that handling of every instance in an
> "initial" transition (probe+start) slows down with increase of clone-max.

"yep"

for non unique clones the number of probes needed is N, where N is the number 
of nodes.
for unique clones, we must test every instance and node combination, or N*M, 
where M is clone-max.

And that's just the running of the probes... just figuring out which nodes need 
to be probed is incredibly resource intensive (run crm_simulate and it will be 
painfully obvious). 

> 
> F.e. for 256 instances transition took 225 seconds, ~0.88s per instance.
> After I added 768 more instances (set clone-max to 1024) together with
> increasing batch-limit to 512, transition took almost an hour (3507
> seconds), or ~4.57s per added instance. Even if I take in account that
> monitoring of already started instances consumes some resources, last
> number seems to be rather big,
> 
> Main CPU consumer on DC while transition is running is crmd, Its memory
> footprint is around 85Mb, resulting CIB size together with the status
> section is around 2Mb,

You said CPU and then listed RAM...

> 
> Could it be possible to optimize this use-case from your opinion with
> minimal efforts? Could it be optimized with just configuration? Or may
> it be some trivial development task, f.e replace one GList with
> GHashtable somewhere?

Optimize: yes, Minimal: no

> 
> Sure I can look deeper and get any additional information, f.e. to get
> crmd profiling results if it is hard to get an answer just from the head.

Perhaps start looking in clone_create_probe()

> 
> Best,
> Vladislav
> 
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