Hi,

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 09:30:45PM +0100, Florian Haas wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Phil Frost <p...@macprofessionals.com> wrote:
> > On Mar 19, 2012, at 15:22 , Florian Haas wrote:
> >> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Phil Frost <p...@macprofessionals.com> 
> >> wrote:
> >>> I'm attempting to automate my cluster configuration with Puppet. I'm 
> >>> already using Puppet to manage the configuration of my Xen domains. I'd 
> >>> like to instruct puppet to apply the configuration (via cibadmin) to a 
> >>> shadow config, but I can't find any sure way to do this. The issue is 
> >>> that running "crm_shadow --create ..." starts a subshell, but there's no 
> >>> easy way I can tell puppet to run a command, then run another command in 
> >>> the subshell it creates.
> >>>
> >>> Normally I'd expect some command-line option, but I can't find any. It 
> >>> does look like it sets the environment variable "CIB_shadow". Is that all 
> >>> there is to it? Is it safe to rely on that behavior?
> >>
> >> I've never tried this specific use case, so bear with me while I go
> >> out on a limb, but the crm shell is fully scriptable. Thus you
> >> *should* be able to generate a full-blown crm script, with "cib foo"
> >> commands and whathaveyou, in a temporary file, and then just do "crm <
> >> /path/to/temp/file". Does that work for you?
> >
> >
> > I don't think so, because the crm shell, unlike cibadmin, has no idempotent 
> > method of configuration I've found. With cibadmin, I can generate the 
> > configuration for the primitive and associated location constraints for 
> > each Xen domain in one XML file, and feed it cibadmin -M as many times as I 
> > want without error. I know that by running that command, the resulting 
> > configuration is what I had in the file, regardless if the configuration 
> > already existed, did not exist, or existed but some parameters were 
> > different.
> >
> > To do this with with crm, I'd have to also write code which
> > checks if things are configured as I want them,

Interesting. Why is it that you cannot trust crm?

> > then take
> > different actions if it doesn't exist, already exists, or
> > already exists but has the incorrect value. That's not
> > impossible, but it's far harder to develop and quite likely I'll
> > make an error in all that logic that will automate the
> > destruction of my cluster.  > 
> Huh? What's wrong with "crm configure load replace <somefile>"?

Yes, I'd also expect that to always produce the same
configuration, i.e. the one as specified in the input file. If
it doesn't, then please file a bug report.

> Anyhow, I think you haven't really stated what you are trying to
> achieve, in detail. So: what is it that you want to do exactly?

Anybody's guess, but for whatever reason they don't seem
comfortable with the crm shell.

Thanks,

Dejan

> Florian
> 
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