On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Vladislav Bogdanov <bub...@hoster-ok.com> wrote:
> Hi Andrew, hi all,
>
> I'm further investigating dlm lockspace hangs I described in
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/cluster-devel/2011-August/msg00133.html
> and in the thread starting from
> https://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/openais/2011-September/016701.html
> .
>
> What I described there is setup which involves pacemaker-1.1.6 with
> corosync-1.4.1 and dlm_controld.pcmk from cluster-3.0.17 (without cman).
> I use openais stack for pacemaker.
>
> I found that it is possible to reproduce dlm kern_stop state across a
> whole cluster with iptables on just one node, it is sufficient to block
> all (or just corosync-specific) incoming/outgoing UDP for several
> seconds (that time probably depends on corosync settings). I my case I
> reproduced hang with 3-seconds traffic block:
> iptables -I INPUT 1 -p udp -j REJECT; \
> iptables -I OUTPUT 1 -p udp -j REJECT; \
> sleep 3; \
> iptables -D INPUT 1; \
> iptables -D OUTPUT 1
>
> I tried to make dlm_controld schedule fencing on CPG_REASON_NODEDOWN
> event (just to look if it helps with problems I described in posts
> referenced above), but without much success, following code does not work:
>
> int fd = pcmk_cluster_fd;
> int rc = crm_terminate_member_no_mainloop(nodeid, NULL, &fd);
>
> I get "Could not kick node XXX from the cluster" message accompanied
> with "No connection to the cluster". That means that
> attrd_update_no_mainloop() fails.
>
> Andrew, could you please give some pointers why may it fail? I'd then
> try to fix dlm_controld. I do not see any other uses of that function
> except than in dlm_controld.pcmk.
I can't think of anything except that attrd might not be running. Is it?
Regardless, for 1.1.6 the dlm would be better off making a call like:
rc = st->cmds->fence(st, st_opts, target, "reboot", 120);
from fencing/admin.c
That would talk directly to the fencing daemon, bypassing attrd, crnd
and PE - and thus be more reliable.
This is what the cman plugin will be doing soon too.
>
> I agree with Jiaju
> (https://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/openais/2011-September/016713.html),
> that could be solely pacemaker problem, because it probably should
> originate fencing itself is such situation I think.
>
> So, using pacemaker/dlm with openais stack is currently risky due to
> possible hangs of dlm_lockspaces.
It shouldn't be, failing to connect to attrd is very unusual.
> Originally I got it due to heavy load
> on one cluster nodes (actually on a host which has that cluster node
> running as virtual guest).
>
> Ok, I switched to cman to see if it helps. Fencing is configured in
> pacemaker, not in cluster.conf.
>
> Things became even worse ;( .
>
> Although it took 25 seconds instead of 3 to break the cluster (I
> understand, this is almost impossible to load host so much, but
> anyways), then I got a real nightmare: two nodes of 3-node cluster had
> cman stopped (and pacemaker too because of cman connection loss) - they
> asked to kick_node_from_cluster() for each other, and that succeeded.
> But fencing didn't happen (I still need to look why, but this is cman
> specific).
> Remaining node had pacemaker hanged, it doesn't even
> notice cluster infrastructure change, down nodes were listed as a
> online, one of them was a DC, all resources are marked as started on all
> (down too) nodes. No log entries from pacemaker at all.
Well I can't see any logs from anyone to its hard for me to comment.
> So, from my PoV cman+pacemaker is not currently suitable for HA tasks too.
>
> That means that both possible alternatives are currently unusable if one
> needs self-repairing pacemaker cluster with dlm support ;( That is
> really regrettable.
>
> I can provide all needed information and really hope that it is possible
> to fix both issues:
> * dlm blockage with openais and
> * pacemaker lock with cman and no fencing from within dlm_controld
>
> I think both issues are really high priority, because it is definitely
> not acceptable when problems with load on one cluster node (or with link
> to that node) lead to a total cluster lock or even crash.
>
> I also offer any possible assistance from my side (f.e. patch trials
> etc.) to get that all fixed. I can run either openais or cman and can
> quickly switch between that stacks.
>
> Sorry for not being brief,
>
> Best regards,
> Vladislav
>
>
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