Dear Dumitru,

Thank you for confirming the bug — I’m happy to help however I can.
------------------------------
I. Temporary Workaround & Feedback

To work around the IPFIX duplication issue in the meantime, I’ve
implemented a post-processing filter that divides duplicate samples by two.
The logic relies on two elements:

   1.

   *Source and destination MAC addresses* to detect reply traffic from VM →
   router port.
   2.

   *Sample metadata* (from the sample entry) to ensure that the match comes
   from a to-lport ACL.

This combination seems to reliably identify duplicated samples. I've tested
this across multiple scenarios and it works well so far.

*Do you foresee any edge cases where this workaround might break down or
behave incorrectly?*
------------------------------
II. Questions Regarding OVN Sampling 1. *Sample Collector Table Limits*

In my deployment, multiple teams share the network, but generate highly
imbalanced traffic. For example:

   -

   Team A sends 90% of total traffic.
   -

   Team B sends only 10%.

If I configure a shared sample_collector with probability = 6553 (≈10%),
there’s a chance Team A may generate most or all samples while Team B’s
traffic may not be captured at all.

Furthermore, the IPFIX table in the ovsdb would set cache_max_flows limits
causing team A and B could not be configured on the same set_id.

To solve this, I configure one sample_collector per team (different set_ids),
so each has independent sampling:

sample_collector "team_a": id=2, set_id=2
sample_collector "team_b": id=1, set_id=1

This setup works, but it introduces a potential limitation:

   -

   Since set_id is limited to 256 values, we can only support up to 256
   teams (or Tenants).
   -

   In multi-tenant environments, this ceiling may be too low.

Would it make sense to consider increasing this limit?
2. *Sampling Performance Considerations*

Here is my current understanding — I’d appreciate confirmation or
corrections:

   -

   Sampling performance is not heavily dependent on ovn-northd or
   ovn-controller, since the generation of the sampling flow is
   insignificant compared to many other features.
   -

   In ovs-vswitchd, both memory and CPU usage scale roughly linearly with
   the number of active OpenFlow rules using sample(...) actions and the
   rate at which those samples are triggered and exported.
   -

   Under high load, performance can be tuned using the cache_active_timeout
   and cache_max_flows fields in the IPFIX table. These parameters control
   export frequency and the size of the flow cache, allowing a balance between
   monitoring fidelity and resource efficiency.

Is this an accurate summary? Or are there other scaling or bottleneck
factors I should consider?
3. *Separate Bug Regarding ACL Tier and Sampling*

I’ve also observed an issue related to sampling and ACL tier interactions.
Would you prefer I continue in this thread or open a new one?

Happy to follow your preferred workflow.
------------------------------

Thanks again for your time and support.

Best regards,
*Oscar*

On Wed, May 14, 2025 at 5:10 PM Dumitru Ceara <dce...@redhat.com> wrote:

> Hi Oscar,
>
> On 5/13/25 1:04 PM, Dumitru Ceara wrote:
> > On 5/13/25 11:06 AM, Trọng Đạt Trần wrote:
> >> Dear Dumitru,
> >>
> >
> > Hi Oscar,
> >
> >> In the previous days, I’ve performed additional tests to gain better
> >> understanding around the issue before giving you the details.
> >>
> >> Thank you for your earlier explanation, it clarified how conntrack and
> >> sampling work in the simple "|vm1 --- ls --- vm2"| topology. However, I
> >> believe my original observations still hold in router related
> topologies.
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>       Setup Recap
> >>
> >> *Topology*: vm_a(10.2.1.5) --- ls1 --- router --- ls2 --- vm_b
> (10.2.3.5)
> >>
> >> ACLs applied to a shared Port Group (|pg_d559...|):
> >>
> >>   *
> >>
> >>     *ACL A*: |from-lport| – allow-related IPv4 (sample_est = |2000000|)
> >>
> >>   *
> >>
> >>     *ACL B*: |to-lport| – allow-related ICMP (sample_est = |1000000|)
> >>
> >> *Sample configuration*:
> >>
> >>   * ACL A: direction=from-lport, match="inport == @pg && ip4",
> >>     sample_est=2000000
> >>   * ACL B: direction=to-lport, match="outport == @pg && ip4 && icmp4",
> >>     sample_est=1000000
> >>
> >>     # ovn-nbctl acl-list pg_d559bf91_b95f_49c0_8e4a_bf35f15e1dcc
> >>       from-lport  1002 (inport ==
> >>     @pg_d559bf91_b95f_49c0_8e4a_bf35f15e1dcc && ip4) allow-related
> >>       to-lport  1002 (outport ==
> >>     @pg_d559bf91_b95f_49c0_8e4a_bf35f15e1dcc && ip4 && ip4.src ==
> >>     0.0.0.0/0 <http://0.0.0.0/0> && icmp4) allow-related
> >>
> >> |
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>       Expected Behavior (based on your explanation)
> >>
> >>   *
> >>
> >>     *First ICMP request*: no sample (ct=new).
> >>
> >>   *
> >>
> >>     *First ICMP reply*:
> >>
> >>       o
> >>
> >>         One sample from *ingress pipeline* (sample_est = |1000000|)
> >>
> >>       o
> >>
> >>         One sample from *egress pipeline* (sample_est = |2000000|)
> >>         → *Total: 2 samples* for reply --> True
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>       Actual Behavior Observed
> >>
> >> On the *first ICMP reply*, I see:
> >>
> >>   *
> >>
> >>     *3 samples total*:
> >>
> >>       o
> >>
> >>         *2 samples* in the *ingress pipeline*, both with |
> >>         obs_point_id=1000000|
> >>
> >>       o
> >>
> >>         *1 sample* in the egress pipeline, with |obs_point_id=2000000|
> >>
> >> This results in *duplicated sampling actions for a single logical
> >> datapath flow* within the ingress pipeline.
> >>
> >> Evidence:
> >>
> >> # ovs-dpctl dump-flows | grep 10.2.1.5
> >> recirc_id(0x1d5),in_port(6),ct_state(-new+est-rel+rpl-
> >>
> inv+trk),ct_mark(0x20020/0xff0031),ct_label(0xf4240000000000000000000000000),eth(src=fa:16:3e:6b:42:8e,dst=fa:16:3e:dd:02:c0),eth_type(0x0800),ipv4(src=10.2.1.5,dst=10.2.3.5,proto=1,ttl=64,frag=no),
> packets:299, bytes:29302, used:0.376s,
> actions:userspace(pid=4294967295,flow_sample(probability=65535,collector_set_id=2,obs_domain_id=33554437,obs_point_id=1000000,output_port=4294967295)),userspace(pid=4294967295,flow_sample(probability=65535,collector_set_id=2,obs_domain_id=33554437,obs_point_id=1000000,output_port=4294967295)),ct_clear,set(eth(src=fa:16:3e:d5:7b:d1,dst=fa:16:3e:f8:af:7d)),set(ipv4(ttl=63)),ct(zone=21),recirc(0x1d6)
> >> |# recirc_id(0x1d5): two flow_sample(...) actions with same metadata
> >> (1000000)
> >> recirc_id(0x1d6),in_port(6),ct_state(-new+est-rel+rpl-
> >>
> inv+trk),ct_mark(0x20000/0xff0031),ct_label(0x1e8480000000000000000000000000),eth(dst=fa:16:3e:f8:af:7d),eth_type(0x0800),ipv4(dst=10.2.3.5,frag=no),
> packets:299, bytes:29302, used:0.376s,
> actions:userspace(pid=4294967295,flow_sample(probability=65535,collector_set_id=2,obs_domain_id=33554439,obs_point_id=2000000,output_port=4294967295)),9
> >> |
> >> |# plus one flow_sample(...) later in the pipeline with metadata
> (2000000)|
> >>
> >> Also confirmed via IPFIX stats:
> >>
> >> # IPFIX before ping
> >> |sampled pkts: 192758 # After a single ping sampled pkts: 192761 → Δ =
> 3|
> >>
> >>
> >>       Additional Findings
> >>
> >>   *
> >>
> >>     The issue *only occurs* when VMs are on *separate logical switches
> >>     connected by a router*.
> >>
> >>   *
> >>
> >>     If both VMs are on the *same logical switch*, IPFIX is correctly
> >>     sampled only once per ACL.
> >>
> >>   *
> >>
> >>     The duplicated sampling occurs *even if ACL A (IPv4) and ACL C
> >>     (IPv6) are unrelated*, as long as both have |sample_est| and belong
> >>     to the same Port Group.
> >>
> >>   *
> >>
> >>     The error can be reproduced *even when only vm_a's Port Group has
> >>     the sampling ACLs*. vm_b does not require any sampling configuration
> >>     for the issue to occur.
> >>
> >
> > Thanks a lot for the follow up!  You're right, this is indeed a bug.
> > And that's because we don't clear the packet's ct_state (well all
> > conntrack related information) when advancing to the egress pipeline of
> > a switch when the outport is one connected to a router.
> >
> > That's due to https://github.com/ovn-org/ovn/commit/d17ece7 where we
> > chose to skip ct_clear if the switch has stateful (allow-related) ACLs:
> >
> > "Also, this patch does not change the behavior for ACLs such as
> > allow-related: packets are still sent to conntrack, even for router
> > ports. While this does not work if router ports are distributed,
> > allow-related ACLs work today on router ports when those ports are
> > handled on the same chassis for ingress and egress traffic. This patch
> > does not change that behavior."
> >
> > On a second look, the above reasoning seems wrong.  It doesn't sound OK
> > to rely on conntrack state retrieved from a CT zone that's not assigned
> > to the logical port we're processing the packet on.
> >
> > I'm going to think about the right way to fix this issue and come back
> > to this thread once it's figured out.
> >
>
> It turns out the fix is not necessarily that straight forward.  There
> are a few different ways to address this though.  As we (Red Hat) are
> also using this feature, I opened a ticket in our internal tracking
> system so that we analyze it in more depth.
>
> https://issues.redhat.com/browse/FDP-1408
>
> However, if the OVN community in general is willing to look at fixing
> this bug that would be great too.
>
> Regards,
> Dumitru
>
> > Thanks again for the bug report!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dumitru
> >
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>       Another Reproducible Scenario (Minimal)
> >>
> >> Port Group A on |vm_a| with:
> >>
> >>   *
> >>
> >>     ACL A: |from-lport| IP4 (sample_est or not)
> >>
> >>   *
> >>
> >>     ACL B: |to-lport| ICMP |sample_est=1000000|
> >>
> >>   *
> >>
> >>     ACL C: |from-lport| IP6 sample_est=2000000
> >>
> >> Port Group B on |vm_b|:
> >>
> >>   *
> >>
> >>     No sampling required
> >>
> >>   *
> >>
> >>     ACL to allow from-lport and to-lport traffic
> >>
> >> When pinging |vm_a| from |vm_b|, the ICMP reply still results in *two
> >> samples with |obs_point_id=1000000|*.
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>       📌 Key Takeaway
> >>
> >> I believe this confirms the IPFIX duplication issue is *not due to
> >> conntrack behavior*, but rather due to *how multiple ACLs with
> >> sample_est on the same Port Group (in different directions) result in
> >> twice |userspace(flow_sample(...))| actions* in the same flow.
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>       To avoid overloading the email, I’ve included more detailed output
> >>       and explanations in the attachment.
> >>
> >>
> >>       This email uses formatting elements such as icons, headers, and
> >>       dividers for clarity. If you experience any display issues, please
> >>       let me know and I’ll avoid using them in future messages.
> >>
> >>
> >>       Please tell me if I can run any additional traces. I’m happy to
> >>       assist further.
> >>
> >>
> >>       Best regards,
> >>
> >>
> >>       *Oscar*
> >>
> >> |
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 9, 2025 at 7:16 PM Dumitru Ceara <dce...@redhat.com
> >> <mailto:dce...@redhat.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     On 5/9/25 2:14 PM, Dumitru Ceara wrote:
> >>     > On 5/9/25 5:38 AM, Trọng Đạt Trần wrote:
> >>     >> Hi Dimitru,
> >>     >>
> >>     >
> >>     > Hi Oscar,
> >>     >
> >>     >
> >>     >> Thank you for pointing that out.
> >>     >>
> >>     >> To clarify: the terms “inbound” and “outbound” in my previous
> message
> >>     >> were used from the *VM’s perspective*.
> >>     >>
> >>     >>
> >>     >>       Topology:
> >>     >>
> >>     >> |vm_a ---- network1 ---- router ---- network2 ---- vm_b |
> >>     >>
> >>     >>
> >>     >>       ACLs:
> >>     >>
> >>     >>   *
> >>     >>
> >>     >>     *ACL A*: allow-related VMs to *send* IPv4 traffic (|
> >>     direction=from-
> >>     >>     lport|)
> >>     >>
> >>     >>   *
> >>     >>
> >>     >>     *ACL B*: allow-related VMs to *receive* ICMP traffic (|
> >>     direction=to-
> >>     >>     lport|)
> >>     >>
> >>     >> I’ve attached both the *Northbound and Southbound database
> dumps* to
> >>     >> ensure the full context is available.
> >>     >>
> >>     >
> >>     > Thanks for the info, I tried locally with a simplified setup
> where I
> >>     > emulate your topology:
> >>     >
> >>     > switch c9c171ef-849c-436d-b3f9-73d83b9c4e5d (ls)
> >>     >     port vm2
> >>     >         addresses: ["00:00:00:00:00:02"]
> >>     >     port vm1
> >>     >         addresses: ["00:00:00:00:00:01"]
> >>     >
> >>     > Those two VIFs are in a port group:
> >>     >
> >>     > # ovn-nbctl list port_group
> >>     > _uuid               : 7e7a96b9-e708-4eea-b380-018314f2435c
> >>     > acls                : [1d0e7b71-ff03-4c78-ace4-2448bf237e11,
> >>     > 7cb023e9-fee5-4576-a67d-ce1f5d98805b]
> >>     > external_ids        : {}
> >>     > name                : pg
> >>     > ports               : [d991baa6-21b0-4d46-a15d-71b9e8d6708d,
> >>     > f2c5679c-d891-4d34-8402-8bc2047fba61]
> >>     >
> >>     > With two ACLs applied:
> >>     > # ovn-nbctl acl-list pg
> >>     > from-lport   100 (inport==@pg && ip4) allow-related
> >>     >   to-lport   200 (outport==@pg && ip4 && icmp4) allow-related
> >>     >
> >>     > Both ACLs have only sampling for established traffic (sample_est)
> set:
> >>     > # ovn-nbctl list acl
> >>     > _uuid               : 1d0e7b71-ff03-4c78-ace4-2448bf237e11
> >>     > action              : allow-related
> >>     > direction           : from-lport
> >>     > match               : "inport==@pg && ip4"
> >>     > priority            : 100
> >>     > sample_est          : 23153fae-0a73-4f86-bdf2-137e76647da8
> >>     > sample_new          : []
> >>     >
> >>     > _uuid               : 7cb023e9-fee5-4576-a67d-ce1f5d98805b
> >>     > action              : allow-related
> >>     > direction           : to-lport
> >>     > match               : "outport==@pg && ip4 && icmp4"
> >>     > priority            : 200
> >>     > sample_est          : 42391c82-23d2-4f2b-a7b9-88afaa68282c
> >>     > sample_new          : []
> >>     >
> >>     > # ovn-nbctl list sample
> >>     > _uuid               : 23153fae-0a73-4f86-bdf2-137e76647da8
> >>     > collectors          : [82540855-dcd4-44e4-8354-e08a972500cd]
> >>     > metadata            : 2000000
> >>     >
> >>     > _uuid               : 42391c82-23d2-4f2b-a7b9-88afaa68282c
> >>     > collectors          : [82540855-dcd4-44e4-8354-e08a972500cd]
> >>     > metadata            : 1000000
> >>     >
> >>     > Then I send a single ICMP echo packet from vm2 towards vm1.  The
> ICMP
> >>     > echo hits both ACLs but because it's the packet initiating the
> session
> >>     > doesn't generate a sample (sample_new is not set in the ACLs).
> >>     Instead
> >>     > 2 conntrack entries are created for the ICMP session:
> >>     >
> >>     > - one in the CT zone of vm2 - here the from-lport ACL is hit so
> the
> >>     > sample_est metadata of the from-lport ACL (200000) is stored
> along in
> >>     > the conntrack state
> >>     >
> >>     > - one in the CT zone of vm1 - here the tolport ACL is hit so the
> >>     > sample_est metadata of the to-lport ACL (100000) is stored along
> >>     in the
> >>     > conntrack state
> >>     >
> >>     > The ICMP echo packet reaches vm1 which replies with ICMP ECHO
> Reply.
> >>     >
> >>     > For the reply the CT zone of vm1 is first checked, we match the
> >>     existing
> >>     > conntrack entry (its state moves to "established") and a sample
> >>     for the
> >>     > stored metadata, 100000, is generated.  Then, in the egress
> pipeline,
> >>     > the CT zone of vm2 is checked, we match the other existing
> conntrack
> >>     > entry (its state also moves to "established") and a sample for the
> >>     > stored metadata, 200000, is generated.
> >>     >
> >>     > This seems correct to me.  Stats also seem to confirm that:
> >>     > # ip netns exec vm2 ping 42.42.42.2 -c1
> >>     > PING 42.42.42.2 (42.42.42.2) 56(84) bytes of data.
> >>     > 64 bytes from 42.42.42.2 <http://42.42.42.2>: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64
> >>     time=1.46 ms
> >>     >
> >>     > --- 42.42.42.2 ping statistics ---
> >>     > 1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
> >>     > rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.455/1.455/1.455/0.000 ms
> >>     >
> >>     > # ovs-ofctl dump-ipfix-flow br-int
> >>     > NXST_IPFIX_FLOW reply (xid=0x2): 1 ids
> >>     >   id   2: flows=2, current flows=0, sampled pkts=2, ipv4 ok=2,
> ipv6
> >>     > ok=0, tx pkts=11
> >>     >           pkts errs=0, ipv4 errs=0, ipv6 errs=0, tx errs=11
> >>     >
> >>     > But then, when I increase the number of packets things become more
> >>     > interesting.  ICMP echos also generate samples.  And while that
> might
> >>     > seem like a bug, it's not. :)
> >>     >
> >>     > When ping sends multiple packets for a single invocation it uses
> the
> >>     > same ICMP ID and just increments the ICMP seq, e.g.:
> >>     >
> >>     > 14:07:41.986618 00:00:00:00:00:02 > 00:00:00:00:00:01, ethertype
> IPv4
> >>     > (0x0800), length 98: (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 58647, offset 0, flags
> [DF],
> >>     > proto ICMP (1), length 84)
> >>     >     42.42.42.3 > 42.42.42.2 <http://42.42.42.2>: ICMP echo
> >>     request, id 35717, seq 1, length 64
> >>     >
> >>     > 14:07:42.988077 00:00:00:00:00:02 > 00:00:00:00:00:01, ethertype
> IPv4
> >>     > (0x0800), length 98: (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 59085, offset 0, flags
> [DF],
> >>     > proto ICMP (1), length 84)
> >>     >     42.42.42.3 > 42.42.42.2 <http://42.42.42.2>: ICMP echo
> >>     request, id 35717, seq 2, length 64
> >>     >
> >>     > But conntrack doesn't use the ICMP ID in the key for the session
> it
> >>     > installs:
> >>
> >>     Sorry about the typo, I meant to say "conntrack doesn't use the
> ICMP SEQ
> >>     in the key for the session it installs, it only uses the ICMP ID".
> >>
> >>     >
> >>     > # ovs-appctl dpctl/dump-conntrack | grep 42.42.42
> >>     >
> >>
>  
> icmp,orig=(src=42.42.42.3,dst=42.42.42.2,id=35628,type=8,code=0),reply=(src=42.42.42.2,dst=42.42.42.3,id=35628,type=0,code=0),zone=4,mark=131104,labels=0xf4240000000000000000000000000
> >>     >
> >>
>  
> icmp,orig=(src=42.42.42.3,dst=42.42.42.2,id=35628,type=8,code=0),reply=(src=42.42.42.2,dst=42.42.42.3,id=35628,type=0,code=0),zone=6,mark=131072,labels=0x1e8480000000000000000000000000
> >>     >
> >>     > So, subsequent ICMP requests will match on these two existing
> >>     > established entries and (because sampling_est) is configured
> >>     samples are
> >>     > generated for them too.
> >>     >
> >>     > That's also visible in the datapath flows that forward packets in
> the
> >>     > "original" direction (ICMP ECHOs in our case):
> >>     >
> >>     > # ovs-appctl dpctl/dump-flows | grep sample | grep '\-rpl'
> >>     > recirc_id(0x29),in_port(3),ct_state(-new+est-rel-rpl-
> >>
>  
> inv+trk),ct_mark(0x20000/0xff0071),ct_label(0x1e8480000000000000000000000000),eth(src=00:00:00:00:00:02,dst=00:00:00:00:00:01),eth_type(0x0800),ipv4(proto=1,frag=no),
> >>     > packets:8, bytes:784, used:2.342s,
> >>     >
> >>
>  
> actions:userspace(pid=4294967295,flow_sample(probability=65535,collector_set_id=2,obs_domain_id=33554434,obs_point_id=2000000,output_port=4294967295)),ct(commit,zone=6,mark=0x20000/0xff0071,label=0x1e8480000000000000000000000000/0xffffffffffff00000000000000000000,nat(src)),ct(zone=4),recirc(0x2a)
> >>     >
> >>     > recirc_id(0x2a),in_port(3),ct_state(-new+est-rel-rpl-
> >>
>  
> inv+trk),ct_mark(0x20020/0xff0071),ct_label(0xf4240000000000000000000000000),eth(src=00:00:00:00:00:02,dst=00:00:00:00:00:00/ff:ff:00:00:00:00),eth_type(0x0800),ipv4(proto=1,frag=no),
> >>     > packets:8, bytes:784, used:2.342s,
> >>     >
> >>
>  
> actions:userspace(pid=4294967295,flow_sample(probability=65535,collector_set_id=2,obs_domain_id=33554434,obs_point_id=1000000,output_port=4294967295)),ct(commit,zone=4,mark=0x20020/0xff0071,label=0xf4240000000000000000000000000/0xffffffffffff00000000000000000000,nat(src)),1
> >>     >
> >>     > So, for a less complicated test, maybe you should try with UDP/TCP
> >>     instead.
> >>     >
> >>     > I hope that clarifies your doubts.
> >>     >
> >>     > Best regards,
> >>     > Dumitru
> >>     >
> >>     >> Best regards,
> >>     >>
> >>     >> Oscar
> >>     >>
> >>     >>
> >>     >> On Thu, May 8, 2025 at 8:11 PM Dumitru Ceara <dce...@redhat.com
> >>     <mailto:dce...@redhat.com>
> >>     >> <mailto:dce...@redhat.com <mailto:dce...@redhat.com>>> wrote:
> >>     >>
> >>     >>     Hi Oscar,
> >>     >>
> >>     >>     On 5/6/25 12:31 PM, Trọng Đạt Trần wrote:
> >>     >>     > As requested, I’ve attached additional tracing information
> >>     related to
> >>     >>     > the sampling duplication issue.
> >>     >>     >
> >>     >>     >   *
> >>     >>     >
> >>     >>     >     The file |ofproto_trace.log| contains the full output
> >>     of |ofproto/
> >>     >>     >     trace| commands.
> >>     >>     >
> >>     >>     >   *
> >>     >>     >
> >>     >>     >     The archive |ovn-detrace.tar.gz| includes six separate
> >>     files, each
> >>     >>     >     corresponding to an |ovn-detrace| output for a flow I
> >>     believe is
> >>     >>     >     involved in the duplicated sampling.
> >>     >>     >
> >>     >>     > Since I’m not fully confident in how to use |--ct-next
> >>     option|, I’ve
> >>     >>     > included traces for all six related flows to ensure
> >>     completeness.
> >>     >>     >
> >>     >>     > Please let me know if you need further details, or if I
> >>     should re-run
> >>     >>     > any commands with additional options.
> >>     >>     >
> >>     >>
> >>     >>     This seems fairly easy to reproduce locally for
> >>     investigation; I didn't
> >>     >>     try yet though.  However, would you mind sharing your OVN NB
> >>     database
> >>     >>     file (I'm assuming this is a test environment)?
> >>     >>
> >>     >>     I would like to make sure we don't have any misunderstanding
> >>     because the
> >>     >>     terms you use below in your ACL description (e.g.,
> >>     "outbound"/"inbound")
> >>     >>     are not standard terms.  Having the actual ACL (and the rest
> >>     of the NB)
> >>     >>     contents will make it easier to debug.
> >>     >>
> >>     >>     Thanks,
> >>     >>     Dumitru
> >>     >>
> >>     >>     > Best regards,
> >>     >>     >
> >>     >>     > *Oscar*
> >>     >>     >
> >>     >>     >
> >>     >>     > On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 4:15 PM Adrián Moreno
> >>     <amore...@redhat.com <mailto:amore...@redhat.com>
> >>     >>     <mailto:amore...@redhat.com <mailto:amore...@redhat.com>>
> >>     >>     > <mailto:amore...@redhat.com <mailto:amore...@redhat.com>
> >>     <mailto:amore...@redhat.com <mailto:amore...@redhat.com>>>> wrote:
> >>     >>     >
> >>     >>     >     On Tue, May 06, 2025 at 11:48:07AM +0700, Trọng Đạt
> >>     Trần wrote:
> >>     >>     >     > Dear Adrián,
> >>     >>     >     >
> >>     >>     >     > Thank you for your response. I’ve applied your
> >>     suggestion to use
> >>     >>     >     separate
> >>     >>     >     > sample entries for each ACL. However, I am still
> seeing
> >>     >>     unexpected
> >>     >>     >     behavior
> >>     >>     >     > in the IPFIX output that I’d like to clarify.
> >>     >>     >     > Test Setup (Same as Before)
> >>     >>     >     >
> >>     >>     >     > vm_a ---- network1 ---- router ---- network2 ----
> vm_b
> >>     >>     >     >
> >>     >>     >     >
> >>     >>     >     >    -
> >>     >>     >     >
> >>     >>     >     >    Two ACLs:
> >>     >>     >     >    -
> >>     >>     >     >
> >>     >>     >     >       ACL A: allow-related *outbound* IPv4
> >>     >>     >     >       -
> >>     >>     >     >
> >>     >>     >     >       ACL B: allow-related *inbound* ICMP
> >>     >>     >     >       -
> >>     >>     >     >
> >>     >>     >     >    ACLs applied symmetrically to both VMs.
> >>     >>     >     >    -
> >>     >>     >     >
> >>     >>     >     >    Test traffic: ICMP request from vm_b to vm_a, and
> >>     reply from
> >>     >>     >     vm_a to vm_b
> >>     >>     >     >    .
> >>     >>     >     >
> >>     >>     >     > Key Problem Observed
> >>     >>     >     >
> >>     >>     >     > When sampling is enabled on *both* ACLs, the IPFIX
> >>     record for
> >>     >>     >     *flow (3)*
> >>     >>     >     > (the ICMP reply from vm_a → router) shows *120
> >>     packets/min*.
> >>     >>     >     >
> >>     >>     >     > However:
> >>     >>     >     >
> >>     >>     >     >    -
> >>     >>     >     >
> >>     >>     >     >    If *only ACL B* (inbound ICMP) is sampled → (3) =
> 60
> >>     >>     packets/min
> >>     >>     >     >    -
> >>     >>     >     >
> >>     >>     >     >    If *only ACL A* (outbound IP4) is sampled → (3)
> >>     not present
> >>     >>     >     >    -
> >>     >>     >     >
> >>     >>     >     >    If both are sampled → (3) = 120 packets/min
> >>     >>     >     >
> >>     >>     >     > This suggests that *flow (3) is being sampled twice*
> >>     — even
> >>     >>     though it
> >>     >>     >     > represents a *single logical flow and matches only
> >>     ACL B*.
> >>     >>     >     > IPFIX Observations
> >>     >>     >     > FlowDescriptionExpectedActual
> >>     >>     >     > (1) vm_b → router (ICMP request) 60 pkt/m 60
> >>     >>     >     > (2) router → vm_a (ICMP request) 60 pkt/m 60
> >>     >>     >     > (3) vm_a → router (ICMP reply) 60 pkt/m 120 ⚠️
> >>     >>     >     > (4) router → vm_b (ICMP reply) 60 pkt/m 60
> >>     >>     >
> >>     >>     >     This is not what I'd expect, maybe Dumitru knows?
> >>     >>     >
> >>     >>     >     Could you attach ofproto/trace and ovn-detrce outputs
> >>     from both
> >>     >>     >     directions?
> >>     >>     >
> >>     >>     >     Thanks.
> >>     >>     >     Adrián
> >>     >>     >
> >>     >>
> >>
>
>
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