Right, but it seems it's only when I create internal interface in OVS for use 
in the host system. If instead I create a system-level bond and use it for both 
vswitchd and vlan interfaces (like I've shown in my example) the resulting 
system interfaces, even though created on a bond that now has "master 
ovs-system", seem to be working fine even if vswitchd is not running.

I understand this is not a "proper" configuration, but I'm trying to understand 
what's wrong about it and how to measure its "wrongness" - frankly I don't even 
fully understand why it works at all, especially when vswitchd is turned off.

Best Regards,
Krzysztof

On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, at 18:03, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> Any use of OVS will bring down the network if vswitch fails.
> 
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 03:26:00PM +0200, Krzysztof Klimonda wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Could you elaborate on that? Is there some documentation on this 
> > interaction I could read? Is this a potential performance issue, or 
> > offloading issue? What would be a better way to configure bonding with ovs 
> > that does not bring down network in case of vswitchd failure?
> > 
> > Best Regards,
> > Krzysztof
> > 
> > On Fri, Jun 25, 2021, at 01:49, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> > > Linux bonds and OVS bridges don't necessarily mix well.
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 10:25:58AM +0200, Krzysztof Klimonda wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > I had a configuration like that in mind:
> > > > 
> > > > # ip link add bond0 type bond
> > > > # ip link set em1 master bond0
> > > > # ip link set em2 master bond0
> > > > # ip link add link bond0 name mgmt type vlan id 100
> > > > # ip link add link bond0 name ovs_tunnel type vlan id 200
> > > > 
> > > > # ovs-vsctl add-br br0
> > > > # ovs-vsctl add-port bond0
> > > > 
> > > > # ip link |grep bond0
> > > > 6: bond0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,MASTER,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 9000 qdisc 
> > > > noqueue master ovs-system state UP mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
> > > > 7: mgmt@bond0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 9000 qdisc noqueue 
> > > > state UP mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
> > > > #
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, at 18:51, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 09:58:49PM +0200, Krzysztof Klimonda wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I have tried the following configuration for the system-level 
> > > > > > network in the lab:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                                            
> > > > > >                               +--vlan10@bond0
> > > > > > ens1--+                      |              
> > > > > >        ---bond0 (ovs-system)--+--vlan20@bond0
> > > > > > ens2--+                      |              
> > > > > >                               +--vlan30@bond0
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The idea is to plug bond0 into openvswitch so that I can add 
> > > > > > specific VLANs to my virtual topology, but push some of those VLANs 
> > > > > > into system without doing any specific configuration on the ovs 
> > > > > > side (for example, to have access to the management interface even 
> > > > > > if vswitchd is down).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This seems to be working fine in my lab (there is access to the 
> > > > > > management interface - vlan10 - even when bond0 has ovs-system as 
> > > > > > master), but are there any drawbacks to such a configuration?
> > > > > 
> > > > > It's hard to guess how you're implementing this.  If you're doing it
> > > > > with something like this:
> > > > > 
> > > > >     ovs-vsctl add-port br0 ens1
> > > > >     ovs-vsctl add-port br0 ens2
> > > > >     ovs-vsctl add-bond br0 bond0 ens1 ens2
> > > > >     ovs-vsctl add-port br0 vlan1 tag=1 -- set interface vlan1 
> > > > > type=internal
> > > > >     ovs-vsctl add-port br0 vlan2 tag=2 -- set interface vlan2 
> > > > > type=internal
> > > > >     ovs-vsctl add-port br0 vlan3 tag=3 -- set interface vlan3 
> > > > > type=internal
> > > > > 
> > > > > then it ought to work fine.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > >   Krzysztof Klimonda
> > > >   [email protected]
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> >   Krzysztof Klimonda
> >   [email protected]
> 


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