> On May 24, 2024, at 8:34 AM, Anne LaVin via Origami > <origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> wrote: > > On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 4:31 PM Laura R via Origami > <origami@lists.digitalorigami.com <mailto:origami@lists.digitalorigami.com>> > wrote: > Happy birthday dear O-List! > Anne, do you happen to keep a copy of the first (or some of the first) email > exchange? > > The short answer is: yes, we have the data, possibly even all of it. > > The longer answer is: it's not in easily shareable/archivable/viewable > format(s). It did take a while for things to get rolling, so the first > bundles of conversations are not all that interesting, really.
Hi all, Perhaps we have some AI experts that can train a LLM (Large Language Model) on the entire O-List to provide an interactive chat bot to our queries? Cheers, Brian K. Webb > On May 24, 2024, at 8:34 AM, Anne LaVin via Origami > <origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> wrote: > > On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 4:31 PM Laura R via Origami > <origami@lists.digitalorigami.com <mailto:origami@lists.digitalorigami.com>> > wrote: > Happy birthday dear O-List! > Anne, do you happen to keep a copy of the first (or some of the first) email > exchange? > > The short answer is: yes, we have the data, possibly even all of it. > > The longer answer is: it's not in easily shareable/archivable/viewable > format(s). It did take a while for things to get rolling, so the first > bundles of conversations are not all that interesting, really. > > That said, "getting the o-list archives somewhere usable, sometime" has long > been on the list of things that would be nice to do for the list... but it's > a Pretty Serious Project, at this point. The data is stored in multiple > chunks, in random formats, so putting them all into something that could act > like a single mail archive would be quite a job. A huge pile of the early > messages were not kept as actual email messages, so their unique message-IDs, > which systems use for creating threading, don't exist any more. They would > likely take human intervention [and there are tens of thousands of them!] to > clean up into something like a real mail archive. I've wondered, on and off, > if there's a way to somehow wiki-fy [not *actually* a wiki, just the concept] > the information, and get volunteers with the right mindset to attack it, and > gradually tidy it up. But wrangling that, and/or running/creating a system > that would make such a collaborative effort possible, is itself a pretty big > project. > > Anne > > > > > > On May 23, 2024, at 5:12 PM, Anne LaVin via Origami > > <origami@lists.digitalorigami.com > > <mailto:origami@lists.digitalorigami.com>> wrote: > > > > Yep, the List is another year older. > > > > For this is the day when, back in 1988 (!) the first messages were > > exchanged in what would eventually migrate to this version of the List, run > > on a private server my husband and I maintain, using the open-source > > Mailman mailing list system. > > > > Pretty much everything has changed a lot since then, but the List is still > > getting used, so we're still here. Maybe this will be the year to migrate > > things to a forum-style backend (I hear good things about Discourse) but > > there will always be an email component for you diehards, never fear! > > > > I hope everyone is having a grand day. Do go fold something, and come back > > and tell us about it! > > > > Anne > > >