Hi Thomas,

Checked the diff right now. All looks good to me.

Thank you for taking care of the comments. 

Cheers,
Med

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> À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <[email protected]>;
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> Objet : RE: [OPSAWG]Mohamed Boucadair's Yes on draft-ietf-opsawg-
> ipfix-on-path-telemetry-20: (with COMMENT)
> 
> Dear Med,
> 
> On behalf of the authors, thank you very much for your detailed
> review and comments.
> 
> We addressed your feedback together with Tim's, Mike's, Deb's,
> Éric's, Gunter's, Greg's and Gorry's as following
> https://author-tools.ietf.org/diff?doc_1=draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-
> on-path-telemetry-
> 20&url_2=https://raw.githubusercontent.com/network-
> analytics/draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-on-path-
> telemetry/refs/heads/main/draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-on-path-
> telemetry-21.txt
> 
> I hope this addresses your comments. Looking forward to your
> review.
> 
> Best wishes
> Thomas
> 
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> ipfix-on-path-telemetry-20: (with COMMENT)
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> COMMENT:
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> 
> Hi Thomas, Benoît, and Alex,
> 
> Thank your for the effort put into this specification. Interesting
> to see the
> approach defined in RFC 8911 exercised here.
> 
> Also, thanks to Menachem Dodge for the OPSDIR review and Qin Wu
> for the
> PERFMETRDIR review. Appreciate that Menachem, Qin, and authors
> converged for
> both reviews.
> 
> As I reviewed a previous version of the spec [1], I only focused
> the current
> review on the diff since then [2]. I specifically appreciated the
> new text
> added to explain the need for the IEs compared to an approach
> where
> intermediate nodes export the timestamps observed in packets and
> local
> receiving timestamps and let the collector to do the various math
> operations.
> Likewise, I appreciate that the IEs were generalized to be
> independent of IOAM.
> 
> I only have very minor comments:
> 
> # Use the exact registry name
> 
> ## Section 1
> 
> OLD:
>    In order to export the delay-related metrics via IPFIX
> [RFC7011],
>    this document defines four new IPFIX Information Elements
> (IEs),
>    exposing the On-Path delay on OAM transit and decapsulating
> nodes,
>    following the postcard mode principles.  Since these IPFIX IEs
> are
>    performance metrics [RFC8911], they are also registered in the
> "IANA
>    Performance Metric Registry [IANA-PERF-METRIC].
> 
> NEW:
>    In order to export the delay-related metrics via IPFIX
> [RFC7011],
>    this document defines four new IPFIX Information Elements
> (IEs),
>    exposing the On-Path delay on OAM transit and decapsulating
> nodes,
>    following the postcard mode principles.  Since these IPFIX IEs
> are
>    performance metrics [RFC8911], they are also registered in the
> IANA
>    “Performance Metric” Registry [IANA-PERF-METRIC].
> 
> ## Section 1
> 
> OLD:
>    Following the guidelines for Registered Performance Metric
> Requesters
>    and Reviewers [RFC8911], the different characteristics of the
>    performance metrics (Identifier, Name, URI, Status, Requester,
>    Revision, Revision Date, Description, etc.) must be clearly
> specified
>    in the "IANA Performance Metric Registry [IANA-PERF-METRIC] in
> order
> 
> NEW:
>    Following the guidelines for Registered Performance Metric
> Requesters
>    and Reviewers [RFC8911], the different characteristics of the
>    performance metrics (Identifier, Name, URI, Status, Requester,
>    Revision, Revision Date, Description, etc.) must be clearly
> specified
>    in the IANA "Performance Metric” Registry [IANA-PERF-METRIC] in
> order
> 
> ## Section 3.1
> 
> OLD:
>    This section specifies four performance metrics for the Hybrid
> Type I
>    Passive assessment of IP One-Way Delay, to be registered in the
> "IANA
>    Performance Metric Registry [IANA-PERF-METRIC].
> 
> NEW:
>    This section specifies four performance metrics for the Hybrid
> Type I
>    Passive assessment of IP One-Way Delay, to be registered in the
> IANA
>    “Performance Metric” Registry [IANA-PERF-METRIC].
> 
> # There might be multiple OAM encapsulating nodes
> 
> OLD:
>    Assuming time synchronization on devices, the delay is measured
> by
>    calculating the difference between the timestamp imposed with
> On-Path
>    Telemetry in the packet at the OAM encapsulating node and the
>                               ^^^^
> 
> NEW:
>    Assuming time synchronization on devices, the delay is measured
> by
>    calculating the difference between the timestamp imposed with
> On-Path
>    Telemetry in the packet at an OAM encapsulating node and the
> 
> Please check other similar constructs.
> 
> # I don’t remember I have seen “flow packet” used in other IPFIX
> specs + there
> might be many OAM headers
> 
> RFC7011 defines flow as follows:
> 
>       A Flow is defined as a set of packets or frames passing an
>       Observation Point in the network during a certain time
> interval.
>       All packets belonging to a particular Flow have a set of
> common
>       properties.
> 
> I suggest we make this change:
> 
> OLD:
>    *  Encapsulating Node: Receives the IP Flow packets,
> encapsulates the
>                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>       packets with the OAM header and adds the timestamp into the
> OAM
>       header.
> 
>    *  Transit Node: Receives the IP Flow packets, measures the
> delay^
>                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>       between the timestamp in the packet and the timestamp when
> the
>       packet was received.
> 
>    *  Decapsulating Node: Receives the IP Flow packets, computes
> the
>                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>       delay between the timestamp in the packet and the timestamp
> when
>       the packet was received and removes the OAM header from the
>       packet.
> 
> NEW:
>    *  Encapsulating Node: Receives the IP packets, encapsulates
> the
>       packets with an OAM header and adds the timestamp into the
> OAM
>                    ^^
>       header.
> 
>    *  Transit Node: Receives the IP packets, measures the delay
>       between the timestamp in the packet and the timestamp when
> the
>       packet was received.
> 
>    *  Decapsulating Node: Receives the IP Flow packets, computes
> the
>       delay between the timestamp in the packet and the timestamp
> when
>       the packet was received and removes the OAM header from the
>       packet.
> 
> # Please add “Collector” and “Observation Point” to the list of
> terms under 7011
> 
> CURRENT:
>   The following terms are used as defined in [RFC7011]:
>    …
> 
> # (Nit) Only one term is imported from 7799
> 
> OLD:
>    The following terms are used as defined in Section 3.8 of
> [RFC7799]:
> 
>    *  Hybrid Type I Passive
> 
> NEW:
>    The following term is used as defined in Section 3.8 of
> [RFC7799]:
> 
>    *  Hybrid Type I Passive
> 
> # (nit) Section 3.1.2
> 
> OLD:
>      We consider the
>      measurement of one-way delay based on a single Observation
> Point
>      [RFC7011] somewhere in the network.
> 
> NEW:
>      The
>      measurement of one-way delay is based on a single Observation
> Point
>      [RFC7011] somewhere in the network.
> 
> Please make the same change for other similar constructs in the
> document.
> 
> # IANA is the authoritative reference for IEs, not RFC7012 & Use
> the exact
> registry names
> 
> OLD:
>  5.2.  IPFIX Entities
> 
>    This document requests IANA to register new IPFIX IEs (see
> table 3)
>    under the "IPFIX Information Elements" registry [RFC7012]
> available
>    at "IANA IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX) Entities Registry
>    [IANA-IPFIX] and assign the following initial code points.
> 
> NEW:
>  5.2.  IPFIX Entities
> 
>    This document requests IANA to register new IPFIX IEs (see
> table 3)
>    under the "IPFIX Information Elements" registry  under
>    the " IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX) Entities” registry
> group
>    [IANA-IPFIX] and assign the following initial code points.
> 
> # RFC-to-be
> 
> There are several notes to the RFC editor with distinct patterns
> [RCC-to-be]
> vs. _RFC[RFC-to-be]
> 
> (1) with RFC label
> 
> 778        Reference:  [RFC-to-be]
> 
> (2) without RFC label
> 
> …
> 781           OWDelay_HybridType1_Passive_IP_RFC[RFC-to-
> be]_Seconds_Mean in the
> 782           IANA Performance Metric Registry.
> 
> Hope this won't be confusing for the RFC editor.
> 
> #  Section 6.5
> 
> ## nit
> 
> s/Section 4.4.2.3 and 4.4.2.4 of [RFC9197]/ Sections 4.4.2.3 and
> 4.4.2.4 of
> [RFC9197]
> 
> There are many such occurrences in the doc.
> 
> ## Cite  RFC8754
> 
> CURRENT:
> 919        be applied to the SRv6 Segment Routing Header.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Cheers,
> Med
> 
> [1]
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/opsawg/qRNGYGSasUsON8PUvpqrP
> 86ojyo/
> 
> [2]
> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url1=draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-
> on-path-telemetry-08&url2=draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-on-path-
> telemetry-20&difftype=--html
> 
> 

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