OK, I can believe that. But the wording is terrible and, as a save for next
version, need to be completely clarified.

Thanks,
Donald
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On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 11:31 AM Joe Clarke (jclarke) <jcla...@cisco.com>
wrote:

> I *think* the text is correct as written.  There is a nuance in here
> between * managed* protocol (i.e., aspects of the protocol itself) and
> *management* protocol (something like SNMP that performs management of
> monitoring of the protocol).
>
>
>
> My take is that while the current text might initially confuse the eyes,
> this erratum should be rejected.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> *From: *RFC Errata System <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org>
> *Date: *Wednesday, February 26, 2025 at 18:17
> *To: *ietf...@comcast.net <ietf...@comcast.net>, war...@kumari.net <
> war...@kumari.net>, mjethanand...@gmail.com <mjethanand...@gmail.com>,
> henk.birkholz@ietf.contact <henk.birkholz@ietf.contact>, Joe Clarke
> (jclarke) <jcla...@cisco.com>
> *Cc: *d3e...@gmail.com <d3e...@gmail.com>, opsawg@ietf.org <
> opsawg@ietf.org>, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org>
> *Subject: *[Technical Errata Reported] RFC5706 (8315)
>
> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5706,
> "Guidelines for Considering Operations and Management of New Protocols and
> Protocol Extensions".
>
> --------------------------------------
> You may review the report below and at:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid8315
>
> --------------------------------------
> Type: Technical
> Reported by: Donald Eastlake <d3e...@gmail.com>
>
> Section: 3.6.1
>
> Original Text
> -------------
>    The protocol document should make clear the limitations implicit
>    within the protocol and the behavior when limits are exceeded.  This
>    should be considered in a data-modeling-independent manner -- what
>    makes managed-protocol sense, not what makes management-protocol-
>    sense.
>
> Corrected Text
> --------------
>    The protocol document should make clear the limitations implicit
>    within the protocol and the behavior when limits are exceeded.  This
>    should be considered in a data-modeling-independent manner -- what
>    makes managed-protocol sense, not what makes data model
>    sense.
>
> Notes
> -----
> I am not sure what correct wording would be. The existing wording is self
> contradictory. The above "corrected" text is just a guess.
>
> Instructions:
> -------------
> This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". (If it is spam, it
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>
> --------------------------------------
> RFC5706 (draft-ietf-opsawg-operations-and-management-09)
> --------------------------------------
> Title               : Guidelines for Considering Operations and Management
> of New Protocols and Protocol Extensions
> Publication Date    : November 2009
> Author(s)           : D. Harrington
> Category            : INFORMATIONAL
> Source              : Operations and Management Area Working Group
> Stream              : IETF
> Verifying Party     : IESG
>
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