Hi Joe, Carlos, Adrian, all,

I support this good and well-written document.

Please find below some comments:

# Cross-WG reviews: some concerns were raised during the CFA about "potential" 
conflict with work in other WGs. We argued at that time that coordinating with 
these WGs should take place. I wonder whether some discussion happened since 
then. At least the WGLC should be sent to these WGs (detnet, for example).

# RFC6291 Update: clarify that it extends it but does not change anything in 
that RFC.

# Guidance scope: The discussion about "in-band signaling"/etc. followed by the 
guidance on "in-band" usage (Section 2) may be interpreted as the guidance 
applies for any use in the IETF, while I think we should be restricting this to 
OAM. Some wording may be helpful here.

# Better clarity: new proposed terms are being listed under the "In-Band and 
Out-of-Band OAM" discussion. I would use a dedicated section for these terms.

# Path congruent/Non-Path-Congruent: I have a preference for 
path-coupled/path-decoupled, but I understand the authors prefer congruent. OK 
with that. I think, however, that the definition of non-path congruent should 
discard strict paths (not loose ones). "s/follow the same path/follow the exact 
same path" would be sufficient here.

# "In-packet" is ambiguous as there is always a packet! What is key is to demux 
it vs user data.
## I suggest s/In-Packet/Shared-Packet (or something similar)
## Reorder Dedicated-Packet/Shared-Packet to emphasis on the intended use of 
"packet".

## Overall I wonder whether some guidance is needed for how to refer to such 
packets (more generally all the "* OAM packet" flavors). For example, 
"Dedicated-Packet OAM packets" may be heavy.

# *-QoS-* OAM terms: I would generalize to *-Forwarding-*  as QoS is only one 
aspect of the forwarding behavior.

# Stale text/Redundant guidance: Please check the enclosed comments below.

FWIW, the full set of comments can be found here:


  *   pdf: 
https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/blob/master/2024/draft-ietf-opsawg-oam-characterization-03-rev%20Med.pdf
  *   doc: 
https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/raw/refs/heads/master/2024/draft-ietf-opsawg-oam-characterization-03-rev%20Med.docx

Thank you

Cheers,
Med

De : Joe Clarke (jclarke) <jclarke=40cisco....@dmarc.ietf.org>
Envoyé : lundi 21 octobre 2024 18:21
À : opsawg@ietf.org
Objet : [OPSAWG]WG LAST CALL: Guidelines for Charactering "OAM"

This starts a two week WG LC 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-opsawg-oam-characterization/.  The 
authors have been polled and there is no known IPR on this work that has been 
disclosed at this time.

Please post comments and thoughts on this document's readiness to the list.  We 
ultimately want to run publication of this in conjunction with the on-path 
telemetry document.  Thanks to Greg Mirsky who agreed to shepherd this draft.

The WG LC will run until November 4.

Thanks.

Joe

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