Thanks, Dhruv. Yes, Benoit and I have similar thoughts on YANG vs. MIB and highlighting areas that seem to repeat themselves in opsawg. We’ll take a deeper look at the charter over the coming weeks.
Joe From: Dhruv Dhody <d...@dhruvdhody.com> Date: Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 08:54 To: opsawg@ietf.org <opsawg@ietf.org> Subject: [OPSAWG]Fwd: [IAB]Internal WG Review: Operations and Management Area Working Group (opsawg) Now that Mahesh has sent the recharter text back to the WG, let me share my quick thoughts that I earlier shared among the IESG and IAB! See below... ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Dhruv Dhody <d...@dhruvdhody.com<mailto:d...@dhruvdhody.com>> Date: Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [IAB]Internal WG Review: Operations and Management Area Working Group (opsawg) To: <i...@ietf.org<mailto:i...@ietf.org>> Cc: The IAB <i...@iab.org<mailto:i...@iab.org>> Hi, I understand that this rechartering is focused on fixing a small nit but it could also be an opportunity to make the charter up to date. The most obvious one to me is no mention of YANG while 9 hits on MIB :). This would also be a good time to tackle the relationships with other WGs. The "current active" work items could be refreshed to highlight areas that are currently taking up WG's time. Thanks! Dhruv On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 2:36 AM IETF Secretariat <ietf-secretariat-re...@ietf.org<mailto:ietf-secretariat-re...@ietf.org>> wrote: A new charter for the Operations and Management Area Working Group (opsawg) WG in the Operations and Management Area of the IETF is being considered. The draft charter for this WG is provided below for your review and comment. Review time is one week. The IETF Secretariat Operations and Management Area Working Group (opsawg) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Current status: Active WG Chairs: Henk Birkholz <henk.birkholz@ietf.contact> Joe Clarke <jcla...@cisco.com<mailto:jcla...@cisco.com>> Benoît Claise <benoit.cla...@huawei.com<mailto:benoit.cla...@huawei.com>> Assigned Area Director: Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanand...@gmail.com<mailto:mjethanand...@gmail.com>> Operations and Management Area Directors: Warren Kumari <war...@kumari.net<mailto:war...@kumari.net>> Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanand...@gmail.com<mailto:mjethanand...@gmail.com>> Mailing list: Address: opsawg@ietf.org<mailto:opsawg@ietf.org> To subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg Archive: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/opsawg/ Charter: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-opsawg/ The Operations and Management Area receives occasional proposals for the development and publication of RFCs dealing with operational and management topics that are not in scope of an existing working group and do not justify the formation of a new working group. The OPSAWG will serve as the forum for developing such work items in the IETF. The OPSAWG mailing list is an open discussion forum for such work items, when they arise. The working group meets if there are active proposals that require discussion. The working group milestones are updated as needed to reflect the current work items and their associated milestones. All new work items and rechartering proposals will be brought for approval with the IESG. The focus of the work will be on topics that govern the behavior or WGs in the O&M area (e.g., manageability requirements) and on small, highly focused projects that don't merit a WG of their own or belong to WGs that have already concluded (e.g. advancement of documents on the standards track, application statements, extensions of MIB modules). The OPSAWG will undertake only work items that are proved to have at least a reasonable level of interest from the operators and users community and have a committed number of editors and reviewers. It is not within the scope of the OPSAWG to pick up failed WG work or parts of a WG charter items that could not come to convergence on what they were chartered to do. The currently active OPSAWG work items mostly fall under the following topics: (A) Templates and tools for Operations and Management Area Documents (B) Maintenance and small scale extensions of documents that were developed in working groups that have concluded (e.g. MIB modules). (C) The RFC 5066 "Ethernet in the First Mile Copper (EFMCu) Interfaces MIB" has transitioned to the IEEE 802.3. However, as agreed with the IEEE, the IF-CAP- STACK-MIB MIB module (from RFC5066) is generic by nature and should continue to be supported by the IETF. The WG will develop a document extracting the IF-CAP-STACK-MIB from RFC5066, emphasizing the generic nature of this module, and obsolete RFC5066. (D) Documenting the list of RFCs transitioned to the IEEE 802.3.1-2011. Considering RFC 4663 "Transferring MIB Work from IETF Bridge MIB WG to IEEE 802.1 WG" as an reference, the following pieces of information would be the foundation for the document: a table mapping the old IETF MIB names with the corresponding new IEEE ones, clarifications/rules on the IETF-IEEE interactions (mailing lists, reviews), and clarifications on the intellectual property considerations. Milestones:
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