Thanks for the deck, Xueyan. I’ve looked through it, and I think netmod is the right place to present this for a couple of reasons:
* You call out deficiencies in current work both presented in and ratified by the netmod WG * You point to possible changes that would be needed in the YANG language or at least how IETF modules are authored There is also considerable overlap in the audiences between netmod and opsawg that I think you wouldn’t receive any new feedback in opsawg. In terms of large-scale users of YANG, I agree with Mahesh that NMOP is a good choice for feedback, and they were not included in the liaison (likely because they are so new). I think it would be good to raise this problem on that mailing list as well to spark feedback from that group. Joe From: song.xuey...@zte.com.cn <song.xuey...@zte.com.cn> Date: Monday, July 8, 2024 at 02:46 To: mjethanand...@gmail.com <mjethanand...@gmail.com>, Joe Clarke (jclarke) <jcla...@cisco.com> Cc: opsawg@ietf.org <opsawg@ietf.org>, opsawg-cha...@ietf.org <opsawg-cha...@ietf.org>, david.sinicr...@ericsson.com <david.sinicr...@ericsson.com>, deepak.raja...@nokia.com <deepak.raja...@nokia.com>, ops-...@ietf.org <ops-...@ietf.org>, nmop-cha...@ietf.org <nmop-cha...@ietf.org>, netmod-cha...@ietf.org <netmod-cha...@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [OPSAWG]Re: REQUEST FOR PRESENTATIONS: Opsawg 120 session Thank you Mahesh and Joe for your suggestions. Agree with you that the scalability YANG work is more relavant to NETMOD and NMOP. Actually I have sent a request to NETMOD Chairs, adding them to the CC list, for presentation of this liaison during NETMOD session. If a time slot is allocated we can discuss at NETMOD first to hear about the feedbacks and see whether there are potential solutions to way forward this work. Meanwhile, it would be much appreciated if some feedbacks and suggestions can be received from the relevant working groups OPSAWG, NMOD and NETCONF via the email-list. To Joe, please find the attached copy for the PPT in the liaison. (I am not sure whether it's just your side question, I will check it, thanks for mentioning that.) Best regards, Xueyan Original From: MaheshJethanandani <mjethanand...@gmail.com> To: Joe Clarke <jcla...@cisco.com>; Cc: 宋雪雁00038118;opsawg@ietf.org <opsawg@ietf.org>;opsawg-chairs <opsawg-cha...@ietf.org>;david.sinicr...@ericsson.com <david.sinicr...@ericsson.com>;deepak.raja...@nokia.com <deepak.raja...@nokia.com>;ops-...@ietf.org <ops-...@ietf.org>;nmop-chairs <nmop-cha...@ietf.org>; Date: 2024年07月08日 05:02 Subject: [OPSAWG]Re: REQUEST FOR PRESENTATIONS: Opsawg 120 session _______________________________________________ OPSAWG mailing list -- opsawg@ietf.org To unsubscribe send an email to opsawg-le...@ietf.org [Adding NMOP chairs] Or even NMOP, if we are not sure if it is a language (YANG) issue. NMOP is tasked to look at all operator issues, including any scale issues. Cheers. On Jul 7, 2024, at 5:19 AM, Joe Clarke (jclarke) <jcla...@cisco.com<mailto:jcla...@cisco.com>> wrote: Hello, Xueyan. I cannot view the PPT in this liaison, but the context around it seems like netmod might be more suited to this work and your presentation. I see you’ve also included netmod and Netconf in the liaison audience, so perhaps you agree that there is expertise there. Alternatively to proposing this to netmod, I am copying the Ops area directors. Many people that attend netmod also come to the opsawg meeting since it also includes the Ops Area portion. Perhaps they would want to incorporate this into their section. Still, my first instinct would be to discuss this in netmod. Joe From: song.xuey...@zte.com.cn<mailto:song.xuey...@zte.com.cn> <song.xuey...@zte.com.cn<mailto:song.xuey...@zte.com.cn>> Date: Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 00:09 To: Joe Clarke (jclarke) <jcla...@cisco.com<mailto:jcla...@cisco.com>> Cc: opsawg@ietf.org<mailto:opsawg@ietf.org> <opsawg@ietf.org<mailto:opsawg@ietf.org>>, opsawg-cha...@ietf.org<mailto:opsawg-cha...@ietf.org> <opsawg-cha...@ietf.org<mailto:opsawg-cha...@ietf.org>>, david.sinicr...@gmail.com<mailto:david.sinicr...@gmail.com> <david.sinicr...@gmail.com<mailto:david.sinicr...@gmail.com>>, david.sinicr...@ericsson.com<mailto:david.sinicr...@ericsson.com> <david.sinicr...@ericsson.com<mailto:david.sinicr...@ericsson.com>>, deepak.raja...@nokia.com<mailto:deepak.raja...@nokia.com> <deepak.raja...@nokia.com<mailto:deepak.raja...@nokia.com>> Subject: [OPSAWG]Re: REQUEST FOR PRESENTATIONS: Opsawg 120 session Dear Chairs, I would like to request a time slot during IETF 120 meeting to present the liaison sent from Broadband Forum on Management at Scale Projects. Liaison name: Follow up on Management at Scale Projects Liaison presenter: Xueyan Song and Deepak Rajaram Xueyan will introduce the liaison text. Deepak will present the attached slides of the liaison. Liaison link: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1935/ Slot requested: 15min The presentation intends to introdue the issues facing the telecom industry with regards to scale go beyond the management of ONUs extending across the entire Access Network, and some general concepts analyzed by Broadband Forum that are designed to alleviate them. It would be very beneficial to get IETF's participants feedback and suggestions on what is the better next step to take for BBF or its members towards IETF to get an IETF solution for the scalability issue identified. An IETF response liaison to BBF with suggested way forward would be very much appreciated. Best regards, Xueyan Mahesh Jethanandani mjethanand...@gmail.com<mailto:mjethanand...@gmail.com>
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