Dear Adrian and Davis,

Nice! Thanks a lot for this document. I think it will help future documents to 
chose the correct terms and language.

I reviewed and have some minor input.

Regarding

Change: A modification to the state of a resource in time.

I believe it not only applies to a resource but also a network entity such a 
network path or a NRLI. Not only applying to management but also to control 
plane. From a Network Anomaly Detection perspective it might even stretch to an 
outlier, including also forwarding plane. See 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-netana-nmop-network-anomaly-semantics-00#section-2.

Regarding

Incident: An event that has a negative effect that is not as required/desired.

For me an incident is one or more symptoms 
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-netana-nmop-network-anomaly-semantics-00#section-4).
 As you described, an event can be positive or negative. One or more negative 
event or measurement can lead into a symptom. See also 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9418#section-2.

Regarding Problem definition. I suggest to go towards the an objective or 
intend (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9315) is no longer fulfilled.

Best wishes
Thomas

From: Adrian Farrel <adr...@olddog.co.uk>
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Subject: A new draft on Network Incident Terminology


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All,

At the side meeting in Prague, Nigel and I committed to putting together a 
first stab at a terminology set for network incidents. We have now posted a -00 
draft.

The intentions here are:

  *   To provide a starting point for discussions of the terminology
  *   To give something that can be edited and made correct
  *   To end up with a set of terms that we can agree upon and use in all of 
our work

We would be shocked if we have got this right on our first pass. We are sure 
that there will be many opinions, and we welcome suggestions for edits and 
proposals for changes.

Although this email is circulated quite widely (including OPSAWG, NMRG, and 
NMOP (still masquerading as NETMO)), we believe that this work will end up in 
NMOP (if the WG is ever formed) and so we suggest that all responses and 
discussions be directed exclusively to the NETMO mailing list.

Looking forward to a fruitful debate,

Nigel and Adrian

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Internet-Draft draft-davis-nmop-incident-terminology-00.txt is now available.



   Title:   Some Key Terms for Incident Management

   Authors: Nigel Davis

            Adrian Farrel

   Name:    draft-davis-nmop-incident-terminology-00.txt

   Pages:   5

   Dates:   2024-01-18



Abstract:



   This document sets out some key terms that are fundamental to a

   common understanding of Incident Management.



   The purpose of this document is to bring clarity to discussions and

   other work related to Incident Management in particular YANG models

   and management protocols that report, make visible, or manage

   incidents.



The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-davis-nmop-incident-terminology/



There is also an HTML version available at:

https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-davis-nmop-incident-terminology-00.html

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