Dear authors,

Next to Thomas's points, here is another one.
I see:


       5. Exception Templates


       This section presents a list of templates for reporting exceptions
       using newly proposed IEs in addition to few existing IEs.

I don't think it's a good idea to propose fixed templates in standards. IPFIX has been created with flexible templates in mind. In other words, we don't want to relay the message that, in order to be compliant with the (future) RFC, we have to report the newly defined IPFIX information elements IN THE EXACT proposed templates.

Regards, Benoit

On 3/12/2021 1:31 PM, [email protected] wrote:

Dear authors,

Speaking as a network operator, I welcome the effort in IPFIX to improve the drop cause declaration better.

As described, IE89 forwardingStatus covers the following categories

forwarded

dropped

consumed

I understood that the motivation of the draft is to increase the amount of code points for dropped from 6-bit (according to IANA, 16 code points currently used) to 32-bit and support the enterprise.

From my perspective, it makes sense to support an enterprise bit for

forwarded

dropped

consumed

However, I miss a clear reason of the increase of size. I would appreciate if you could describe more drop causes which qualifies for the increase to 32-bit.

I would also to consider to include the existing code points from IE89 in forwardingExceptionCode as well to support a migration path. So a device does not need to export both.

Further please clarify the need of forwardingNexthopId over existing entities

IE15      ipNextHopIPv4Address

IE18      bgpNextHopIPv4Address

IE62      ipNextHopIPv6Address

IE63      bgpNextHopIPv6Address

IE47      mplsTopLabelIPv4Address

Best wishes

Thomas

*From:*OPSAWG <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Venkata Chaitanya Munukutla
*Sent:* Monday, February 22, 2021 9:38 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* [OPSAWG] Requesting review & feedback - draft-mvmd-opsawg-ipfix-fwd-exceptions-02

WG,

We recently published a new version of the draft ( https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mvmd-opsawg-ipfix-fwd-exceptions-02 <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftools.ietf.org%2Fhtml%2Fdraft-mvmd-opsawg-ipfix-fwd-exceptions-02&data=04%7C01%7CThomas.Graf%40swisscom.com%7Ca4f03da8f61048936eca08d8d771d4fc%7C364e5b87c1c7420d9beec35d19b557a1%7C1%7C0%7C637496231201225710%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=qL61o9f4Px%2FeA1ffRXX1zwALEIlID6WDSy%2BlE2niDSY%3D&reserved=0> ) based on review comments & feedback from IETF 109.

Please do review this draft and let us know your feedback.

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Title         : IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX) Information Elements Extension for Forwarding Exceptions.

Authors   : Chaitanya Munukutla

Shivam Vaid

Aditya Mahale

Devang Patel

Filename : draft-mvmd-opsawg-ipfix-fwd-exceptions-02

Last updated: 2021-02-04

Abstract :

   This draft proposes couple of new Forwarding exceptions related

   Information Elements (IEs) and Templates for the IP Flow Information

   Export (IPFIX) protocol.  These new Information Elements and

   Exception Template can be used to export information about any

   forwarding errors in a network.  This essential information is

   adequate to correlate packet drops to any control plane entity and

   map it to an impacted service.  Once exceptions are correlated to a

   particular entity, an action can be assigned to mitigate such

   problems essentially enabling self-driving networks.

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The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mvmd-opsawg-ipfix-fwd-exceptions/ <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fdraft-mvmd-opsawg-ipfix-fwd-exceptions%2F&data=04%7C01%7CThomas.Graf%40swisscom.com%7Ca4f03da8f61048936eca08d8d771d4fc%7C364e5b87c1c7420d9beec35d19b557a1%7C1%7C0%7C637496231201225710%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=RG68bfLtbxSLNRrVlSNft9%2BuEt%2FsADdKyYUU51GSbfM%3D&reserved=0>

Side-by-side diff from version 00 for this draft is available at:

https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-mvmd-opsawg-ipfix-fwd-exceptions-00&url2=draft-mvmd-opsawg-ipfix-fwd-exceptions-02 <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ietf.org%2Frfcdiff%3Furl1%3Ddraft-mvmd-opsawg-ipfix-fwd-exceptions-00%26url2%3Ddraft-mvmd-opsawg-ipfix-fwd-exceptions-02&data=04%7C01%7CThomas.Graf%40swisscom.com%7Ca4f03da8f61048936eca08d8d771d4fc%7C364e5b87c1c7420d9beec35d19b557a1%7C1%7C0%7C637496231201235669%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=4XCq21S1oQ7B1%2FUgt1AO7FEEPCn3ID6oIC%2FnhwjUiB4%3D&reserved=0>

Regards,

Chaitanya.

Juniper Business Use Only


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