> >It is the opinion of this chair (Warren having recused himself) that the ID 
> >author
> >should see if he can do what David suggests (add material summarizing the
> >problem at the end of the draft) and republish as a non-WG ID.  The WG can 
> >revisit
> >the question of adoption after that is done.

> We can and will, although we were very much hoping to do this as more of a
> community and less as two individuals. Ah well - consensus was not met...

As I originally wrote, I would support adoption of this draft if the purpose 
was to
expand it into a problem statement, but that's not how the purpose of adopting 
the
draft was characterized.  With luck, the added material can make that purpose 
clear,
and a subsequent adoption call would have a positive outcome.

Thanks,
--David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: OPSAWG [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Grundemann
> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 10:13 AM
> To: Scott Bradner; [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] Call for Adoption: draft-opsawg-operators-ietf
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/23/15, 5:22 AM, "Scott O. Bradner" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> >It is the opinion of this chair (Warren having recused himself) that the ID
> author
> >should see if he can do what David suggests (add material summarizing the
> >problem at the end of the draft) and republish as a non-WG ID.  The WG can
> revisit
> >the question of adoption after that is done.
> 
> We can and will, although we were very much hoping to do this as more of a
> community and less as two individuals. Ah well - consensus was not met...
> >
> >My personal view is that this is useful information (though more details of
> the
> >actual research would be helpful (as Juergen commented) and the IETF
> >would benefit from the information being published as an RFC but it would
> >mostly help if the IETF actually made use of the information in some way to
> >broaden operator participation -  I am not sure how to get there from
> >here (or from the ID).
> 
> That¹s exactly the conversation we were hoping this working group would
> have, which is of course why we submitted the document for adoption. I see
> this as an opportunity missed, but we¹ll try againŠ
> 
> Disappointed in Denver,
> ~Chris
> 
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