On 9/10/2013 3:29 AM, Loa Andersson wrote:
> Melinda,
> 
> in general I agree with you - but I would say that the "support
> as co-author" is in a group of mails that could be called
> "unnecessary but not forbidden".

Right, that's my feeling as well.  But I do think that
consensus processes are not well-understood, to the
detriment of the IETF, and that misunderstanding can be
expressed in a variety of ways, including responding
to working group last calls with a vote.  As the
organization has grown and changed over the years this
has become more of an issue.  It's a very good thing
that the IETF has grown and changed, and having a broader
set of participants both improves our documents and improves
the uptake of our documents, but it does mean
that from time to time we need to remind ourselves that
we do business a little (or a lot) differently from
other standards bodies.

One response I've never seen but that would indicate that
the person "gets it" would be a response along the lines
of "I don't agree with the contents of this document but
I made my case during its development, and while I'd
like my disagreement noted I will not object to it moving
forward."

Melinda

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