Hi Jim,

Sorry I don’t understand the logic hidden in the questions (especially your 
last question).
Maybe the following technical details may help us.

All amd64, arm and arm64 jerma docker tags (functest, xtesting and 
functest-kubernetes) are rolling vs our stable/jerma branches.
We could publish additional fixed docker tags if it fits CNTT but they will 
quickly raise lots of cons (e.g. security patches, synchronization with CNTT).
Then I would encourage all end users to select the rolling tags anyway.
We should note that our gates guarantee stability as much as possible which is 
much better than fixed tags which are not verified enough.

For the OpenStack part, Functest Jerma is full synced to Train and It’s not 
only about the framework included.
It includes all python requirements proposed by OpenStack as upper-constraints.

Yes Functest Jerma is synced with RA1 baraque and it’s simply the model in 
place since Snezka (January).
It’s worth mentioning that even Functest Ussuri and Latest (next Victoria) are 
also synced with RA1 Baraque.

It’s true that OPNFV has turned around a lot regarding the last releases (Rocky 
-> Master -> Train or managed by milestones -> self managed -> managed by 
requirement traceability).
Functest has always followed the best technical processes (and then the same 
model) and clear directions over the releases for the benefits of all its end 
users.
I could introduce former Functest slide decks in technical meetings if it helps.
Maybe introducing them in the dev events was not suitable regarding the dev 
event attendees and the classical conflicts between the OPNFV slots in LFN dev 
event.

Functest as part of the release? I would consider it depends how you interpret 
the question.
Yes Functest is synced with CNTT and OpenStack Train.
No Functest won’t accept any requirement coming from others (TSC) without any 
code contribution.
We could rather consider the answer is about project part of the official OPNFV 
release communication. As all OPNFV test tools, it would be mostly no for a 
while.

Cédric

De : Jim Baker [mailto:[email protected]]
Envoyé : mardi 18 août 2020 20:58
À : OLLIVIER Cédric TGI/OLN <[email protected]>
Cc : David McBride <[email protected]>; Alec Hothan (ahothan) 
<[email protected]>; Georg Kunz <[email protected]>; Al Morton 
<[email protected]>; opnfv-tech-discuss 
<[email protected]>; opnfv-project-leads 
<[email protected]>; [email protected]
Objet : Re: [opnfv-tsc] Jerma Release Meeting: Requirements Working Group

Hey Cedric - Did you tag/branch the Jerma release last October? And that is the 
version you want to release? Seems like it would leave out some of the 
development that you've done for CNTT?
I guess I don't understand how your announcement of Functest for Jerma relates 
to the OPNFV Jerma release?
Jim

On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 3:44 AM 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi,

Functest Jerma has been released 10/14/19.
https://lists.opnfv.org/g/opnfv-tsc/message/5636

Functest has already been updated to take CNTT Baraque requirements into 
account.
Of course Functest will be continuously synced with RA1 via all RA1 meetings if 
any API capability switches to optional or mandatory.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/cntt-baraque-road-openstack-train-c%25C3%25A9dric-ollivier/

Here are calls for contributors suggesting a couple of RC1 enhancements via 
Functest if companies are interested to contribute.
(be free to contact me for any code contribution to Functest for the success of 
CNTT)
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/call-functest-cntt-rc1-contributions-c%C3%A9dric-ollivier/
https://lists.opnfv.org/g/opnfv-tech-discuss/message/24134

As Functest is fully integrated in RC1, the main target is about adding the 
existing test cases in RC2.
The overall task is currently more on CNTT side (e.g. test case description and 
selection)

Cédric

De : [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] De la part 
de David McBride
Envoyé : lundi 17 août 2020 18:54
À : Alec Hothan (ahothan) <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Georg 
Kunz <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc : Al Morton <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
opnfv-tech-discuss 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>;
 opnfv-project-leads 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>;
 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; Jim Baker 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Objet : Re: [opnfv-tsc] Jerma Release Meeting: Requirements Working Group

Hi Alec,

I think that the best approach is to attend the release meeting on Tuesday.  
Initially, we will be addressing the scope of CNTT requirements that we want to 
take on for OPNFV Jerma.  Subsequently, we will dig into the details of the 
requirements.

Also, note that @Georg Kunz<mailto:[email protected]> has created a new 
project called Kuberef that seeks to develop a kubernetes-based RI.

David

On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 6:44 AM Alec Hothan (ahothan) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Al,

What is the best format to provide feedback on the wiki [0]?
Some topics may require a lot more than what can fit in a table cell and likely 
would benefit from more interactive discussion between OPNFV and CNTT teams 
(technical level, not organizational as this seems to be what is happening most 
at this time). Collaboration methods that are friendly to multi-TZ are 
preferred.

Trying to get up to speed, one general question as it is not clear from the 
wiki, these requirements seem to be focused on openstack and VMs, but I also 
see occasional mention of k8s, can we clarify the exact scope of this wiki? It 
is understandable to try to cover everything (openstack + k8s) but it is 
already challenging to just cover openstack properly, adding k8s to the 
discussion is going to be even more challenging to get something 
concrete/actionable in a reasonable time.

Thanks

  Alec


From: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf 
of Al Morton <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 9:59 AM
To: 'opnfv-tech-discuss' 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>,
 opnfv-project-leads 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, Jim Baker 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, "David McBride 
([email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>)" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [opnfv-tsc] Jerma Release Meeting: Requirements Working Group

OPNFV PTLs,

During David's Tuesday Release Meeting (right after the TSC meeting), we plan 
to use some of the agenda time to cover CNTT BALDY Release Requirements vetting.

Please Join the Release Meeting to discuss! <<<<

Our progress will be captured on the JERMA Release wiki, in a dedicated page 
[0].
I worked through about half of the 150 requirements again yesterday.

In general, it would be better if the requirement wording anticipated more 
specific action by the Reference Implementation projects, or the projects 
contributing to the Reference Conformance Testing. I view the current 
requirement wording as more directed to vendors ("the architecture must allow 
for..."), while alternative wording could help testers and accomplish the same 
goals ("Test that the API can instantiate one or more VMs, <details>.") Similar 
for Ref Implementation...

As I said many times, we will need to engage the CNTT WS leaders and give them 
direct feedback that they can implement in their documentation. We also need 
CNTT WS Leader dialog on requirement priority, stakeholder support levels, and 
release scheduling.

thanks,
Al


[0] https://wiki.opnfv.org/x/wAVbAw



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