I'm moving it to the Infra wiki space it relates to more than just the
Pharos project. thanks

https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/INF/CNTT+RI+Lab+Infrastructure+Discussion/


On 11/6/19 5:42 AM, Lincoln Lavoie wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I've created the Wiki discussion page, as requested by
> Mark: 
> https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/pharos/CNTT+RI+Lab+Infrastructure+Discussion
>
> I've added your comments and tagged in this page, if you've responded,
> so you probably had more emails as well (sorry about that).
>
> Please use this page to continue the discussions.
>
> Cheers,
> Lincoln
>
> On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 7:58 AM SHOSTAK, MARK <ms7...@att.com
> <mailto:ms7...@att.com>> wrote:
>
>     +Ahmed
>
>      
>
>     *From:* SHOSTAK, MARK
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, November 06, 2019 05:45
>     *To:* georg.k...@ericsson.com <mailto:georg.k...@ericsson.com>;
>     gergely.csat...@nokia.com <mailto:gergely.csat...@nokia.com>;
>     lylav...@iol.unh.edu <mailto:lylav...@iol.unh.edu>
>     *Cc:* opnfv-tech-dis. <opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org
>     <mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>>; FIX, MICHAEL A
>     <mf4...@att.com <mailto:mf4...@att.com>>; fuq...@chinamobile.com
>     <mailto:fuq...@chinamobile.com>
>     *Subject:* RE: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Lab hardware requirements for CNTT
>
>      
>
>     Hi All,
>
>      
>
>     I’d like to ensure there’s traceability and a basis/justification
>     for all RI/CIRV lab h/w requirements we specify, as well as
>     assumptions, so we know we’ve covered everything and can
>     substantiate our conclusions and ultimate decisions.
>
>      
>
>     Gergely wrote:
>
>     > /If we would like to test both profiled from the Reference Model
>     I think we need 2 * 20C/40T CPU./
>
>     *Gergely,*I don’t contest this, but can you connect the dots for
>     me on how you extrapolated socket/thread counts?
>
>      
>
>     I can make a table, unless someone beats me to it, as a start I’m
>     envisioning:
>
>     -          Hardware item requested
>
>     -          Rx reference, if applicable
>
>     -          Basis // logic used to extrapolate h/w
>
>     -          Assumptions // such as, this item will allow us to test
>     x, y, z
>
>      
>
>     Thoughts/suggestions on the table?
>
>      
>
>     *Lincoln*, Can we host this table on the Infra wiki, or where
>     would you recommend?
>
>      
>
>     *Georg*, The network area is evolving, so without going into the
>     history, you are correct, the speed is intended to reflect a
>     virtual/vNIC rate. References to physical NICs have been removed
>     from the abstraction context. There are still open questions in
>     this area in regard to what bandwidth is required of the physical
>     NICs for the lab machines, as well as updates for the RM itself.
>     As you noted you don’t see the value in those numbers, can you
>     revise this section of the RM? If so, let’s discuss objectives/vision.
>
>                                                                         
>     Thanks!
>
>     -Mark
>
>      
>
>      
>
>     Gergely wrote:
>
>     > If we would like to test both profiled from the Reference Model I
>     think we need 2 * 20C/40T CPU.
>
>     as
>
>      
>
>     *From:* opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org
>     <mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>
>     [mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org] *On Behalf Of *Georg
>     Kunz via Lists.Opnfv.Org <http://Lists.Opnfv.Org>
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, November 06, 2019 02:51
>     *To:* gergely.csat...@nokia.com
>     <mailto:gergely.csat...@nokia.com>; lylav...@iol.unh.edu
>     <mailto:lylav...@iol.unh.edu>; opnfv-tech-dis.
>     <opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org
>     <mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>>
>     *Cc:* opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org
>     <mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>
>     *Subject:* Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Lab hardware requirements for CNTT
>
>      
>
>     Hi all,
>
>      
>
>     Regarding the network interfaces, the numbers listed in the
>     reference architecture cannot be mapped to physical hardware,
>     simply because no NICs supporting those bandwidths are widely
>     available (maybe 100Gbs). This table seems to refer to the
>     bandwidth of virtual NICs in a flavor. I personally don’t see the
>     concrete value (and use case) of these numbers yet, but if I am
>     missing anything here, please let me know.
>
>      
>
>     Best regards
>
>     Georg
>
>      
>
>     *From:* opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org
>     <mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>
>     <opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org
>     <mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>> *On Behalf Of
>     *Gergely Csatari via Lists.Opnfv.Org <http://Lists.Opnfv.Org>
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, November 6, 2019 6:45 AM
>     *To:* lylav...@iol.unh.edu <mailto:lylav...@iol.unh.edu>;
>     opnfv-tech-dis. <opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org
>     <mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>>
>     *Cc:* opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org
>     <mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>
>     *Subject:* Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Lab hardware requirements for CNTT
>
>      
>
>     Hi,
>
>      
>
>     If we would like to test both profiled from the Reference Model I
>     think we need 2 * 20C/40T CPU.
>
>     If we would like to test all the flavors listed in the Reference
>     Model we need hardware what can run flavors with 32GB RAM and 320
>     GM local disks.
>
>     If we would like to test all the network options from the
>     Reference Architecture we need hardware capable to run instances
>     with 1*100, 1*200, 1*300, 1*400, 1*500, 1*600 Gbps interfaces.
>
>      
>
>     Br,
>
>     Gerg0
>
>      
>
>      
>
>     *From:* opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org
>     <mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>
>     <opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org
>     <mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>> *On Behalf Of
>     *Lincoln Lavoie via Lists.Opnfv.Org <http://Lists.Opnfv.Org>
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, November 6, 2019 2:56 AM
>     *To:* opnfv-tech-dis. <opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org
>     <mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>>
>     *Cc:* opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org
>     <mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>
>     *Subject:* [opnfv-tech-discuss] Lab hardware requirements for CNTT
>
>      
>
>     Hello All,
>
>      
>
>     We (Infra Project) would like to have some discussions on how to
>     best provide the laboratory resources for the CNTT Reference
>     Implementation (CIRV OPNFV Project). Within this context, we are
>     considering CNTT as an upstream project, where the outcome of this
>     discussion would "drive" a patch to the upstream CNTT
>     documentation here
>     
> (https://github.com/cntt-n/CNTT/blob/master/doc/ref_impl/cntt-ri/chapters/chapter04.md
>     
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>      
>
>     One aspect we have discussed within the Infra team is to develop a
>     road map for the labs to come online to the full / final set of
>     hardware needed by the CNTT requirements.  As part of this road
>     map, I think we should get some agreements in place for the
>     Release 1 hardware as part of the reference implementation work.
>     The CIRV team will need to ensure this will meet their needs in
>     working with the installers, etc.  If we make these agreements as
>     a community, we should be able to feed these upstream to CNTT as a
>     change request / proposal to the section cited above.
>
>      
>
>     For lab release 1, can we agree to a common requirement for the
>     controller and compute nodes (i.e. a server, meeting the
>     requirements, could serve either role)?
>
>      
>
>     For lab release 1, can we agree the jump host can run as a virtual
>     machine, instead of bare-metal?
>
>      
>
>     For lab release 1, can we agree to a homogenous set of hardware
>     (i.e. there is no difference between B / C / N flavors in the
>     compute nodes)?
>
>      
>
>     For lab release 1, can we agree to the following specification for
>     bare-metal nodes:
>
>     * 2.2GHz 24C/48T
>
>     * 512GB RAM
>
>     * 3.2 TB SSD 
>
>     * 4x 25Gbps Network Ports
>
>      
>
>     For lab release 1, can we agree to the following specification for
>     virtual jump hosts:
>
>     * 2x vCPU cores
>
>     * 8GB RAM
>
>     * 1TB HDD
>
>     * 2x virtual NICs 
>
>      
>
>     This is a fair bit to discuss, but let's try to keep it all within
>     this thread and on the list, so the community can easily
>     participate in the discussion.  I'm also happy to host a couple of
>     IRC "meet ups" if it would make an easier discussion as well
>     (outputs / minutes of those discussions would be posted back to
>     this thread.
>
>      
>
>     Cheers,
>     Lincoln
>
>      
>
>     -- 
>
>     *Lincoln Lavoie*
>
>     Senior Engineer, Broadband Technologies
>
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