Anton,

I should have been a bit more explicit in my previous email.

The SFC103/104 demos are intended for a stand-alone, Non-OpenStack (hence no 
OPNFV needed) setup. Basically, they use vagrant to setup the necessary VMs. 
These demos do not use Tacker.

In an OPNFV deployment, there needs to be an entity that spins-up and manages 
VMs for the SFC SFs, and ODL wont (and shouldnt) do that. This functionality is 
called a VNF Manager. Tacker is a VNF Manager (and some orchestration) as it 
does VNF management and orchestrates the SF VM info to ODL SFC. If you dont use 
Tacker, and dont have another VNF Manager, then you'll need to handle the VMs 
by hand, which is possible, but can be very tedious.

Regards,

Brady

-----Original Message-----
From: "Chivkunov, Anton" 
<achiv...@mera.ru<mailto:%22Chivkunov,%20anton%22%20%3cachiv...@mera.ru%3e>>
To: Brady Allen Johnson 
<brady.allen.john...@ericsson.com<mailto:brady%20allen%20johnson%20%3cbrady.allen.john...@ericsson.com%3e>>,
 Michail Polenchuk 
<mpolenc...@mirantis.com<mailto:michail%20polenchuk%20%3cmpolenc...@mirantis.com%3e>>,
 mb...@suse.com 
<mb...@suse.com<mailto:%22mb...@suse.com%22%20%3cmb...@suse.com%3e>>
Cc: opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org 
<opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:%22opnfv-tech-disc...@lists.opnfv.org%22%20%3copnfv-tech-disc...@lists.opnfv.org%3e>>
Subject: RE: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [fuel][plugins][odl] SFC agent for 
SFs/SFFs/Classifiers creation
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 09:35:45 +0000

Hi Brady.

Thank you for your feedback! Yes, I saw demos 103/104 as well and the reason 
why I interested in 101/102 instead is because they don’t use Tacker, but 
103/104 use it.
Our current installation based on instruction 
http://artifacts.opnfv.org/sfc/review/20587/installationprocedure-single/index.html
 (5.2.4. Feature configuration on existing Fuel), and this instruction didn’t 
contain installation of Tacker plugin. Only next two are mentioned there:
fuel plugins --install fuel-plugin-ovs-*.noarch.rpm
fuel plugins --install opendaylight-*.noarch.rpm

Therefore we have no Tacker installed currently. It is not big problem (sure we 
can install Tacker), but this is the reason why we looked for the way how to 
run SFC without Tacker.
Meanwhile, we have setup with 3 Controller and 2 compute nodes. I’m wondering 
if there are some significant difference in compare with VM setup (we have no 
virtualbox & vagrant, which were used in SFC103)?

BR/Anton.

From: Brady Allen Johnson [mailto:brady.allen.john...@ericsson.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 12:22 PM
To: Michail Polenchuk; mb...@suse.com; Chivkunov, Anton
Cc: opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [fuel][plugins][odl] SFC agent for 
SFs/SFFs/Classifiers creation


Anton,

The SFC101 and 102 demos are outdated and no longer supported. Its best to look 
at either the SFC103 or 104 demos. The sfc-agent is still used in SFC103, but 
we will soon stop supporting it.

The SFC103 demo is a great way to run and execute SFC in a single VM. If you 
want to create SFs, SFFs, and classifiers in an OPNFV context, the best would 
be to use Tacker.

Regards,

Brady


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Polenchuk 
<mpolenc...@mirantis.com<mailto:michael%20polenchuk%20%3cmpolenc...@mirantis.com%3e>>
To: "Chivkunov, Anton" 
<achiv...@mera.ru<mailto:%22Chivkunov,%20anton%22%20%3cachiv...@mera.ru%3e>>, 
Manuel Buil <mb...@suse.com<mailto:manuel%20buil%20%3cmb...@suse.com%3e>>
Cc: 
opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org> 
<opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:%22opnfv-tech-disc...@lists.opnfv.org%22%20%3copnfv-tech-disc...@lists.opnfv.org%3e>>
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [fuel][plugins][odl] SFC agent for 
SFs/SFFs/Classifiers creation
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 11:45:46 +0400

Hi Anton,

+ Manuel
I believe Manuel has more experience with SFC than me.

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Chivkunov, Anton 
<achiv...@mera.ru<mailto:achiv...@mera.ru>> wrote:

Hi Michael.

If I didn’t cross the limit yet, I want to ask one more question about PlugIn ☺
On SFC main page 
(https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Service_Function_Chaining:Main) there are 
several Demos available. Demos 101&102 describe procedure of 
SFs/SFFs/Classifiers creation 
(https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzS_qWNqsnQbUnEzU3BqVzdueTQ/view).
There mentioned that SFC agent have to be started on corresponding node for 
this purpose. To start SFC agent there is special script “start_agent.sh”. But 
in our installation, with ODL/SFC as Plugin, we have no this script available. 
I’m wondering if we need just to load this script from SFC repo and use it, or 
there is another method for SFs/SFFs/Classifiers creation provided in 
environments, deployed by Fuel, and we should use some other way to create 
SFs/SFFs/Classifiers?

*Not 100% sure that this question is really related to plugin. If it is not, 
then please sorry for this.

BR/Anton.

From: Chivkunov, Anton
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 11:20 AM
To: 'Michael Polenchuk'
Cc: 
opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>
Subject: RE: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [fuel][plugins][odl] HW requirements for ODL 
Controller with SFC.

Hi Michael.

Thank you for advice!
Currently we are trying to use our most powerful node (16Gb of RAM and 4-cores 
CPU) for Openstack + ODL Controller. Also we requested additional RAM for all 5 
nodes, to have 16-32Gb on each.
If it will not help we also will try with dedicated node for ODL controller as 
you suggested.

BR/Anton.

From: Michael Polenchuk [mailto:mpolenc...@mirantis.com]
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 11:10 AM
To: Chivkunov, Anton
Cc: 
opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [fuel][plugins][odl] HW requirements for ODL 
Controller with SFC.

Hi Anton,
Definitely the timeout and low performance caused by RAM capacity. I guess you 
have a lot of processes in swap.
I would recommend to dedicate one node to opendaylight controller since 8Gb is 
actually ain't enough for openstack+odl.
Also for the openstack controllers itself the minimum/required RAM is ~10-11Gb.

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 2:33 PM, Chivkunov, Anton 
<achiv...@mera.ru<mailto:achiv...@mera.ru>> wrote:
Hi all.

Sorry to bother you again, but we want to consult regarding HW requirements for 
Controller node, which act as ODL controller as well.
As it was described in initial mail, we have an environment, which consist of 
Fuel master node, 3 Controller and 2 compute nodes.
Controller nodes have 2-core Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPUs. Two out of 3 
controllers have 8Gb of RAM, and one – 6 (not 16)Gb. ODL controller is one of 
8Gb nodes.

Compute nodes have 16Gb RAM and next CPUs:
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4460  CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU

First of all, quite often during deployments in this configuration one or few 
nodes can go away and back online:
Node 'Controller1 n103262' is back online
Node 'Controller1 n103262' has gone away

After such attempts part of functions are not operational and many tests fails.
When we are lucky and nodes were not away during deploy, most part of tests 
works, only few of them may fail due to timeouts and work only after several 
re-runs.
At this step we are able to create/ping instances and so on, but as soon as we 
install SFC UI and try do to something there everything breaks:

-          Existing instances are not pingable

-          New instances can’t be created due to error from nova-scheduler (no 
hosts found)

-          CPU load on  ODL controller becomes extremely high (up to 100%) and 
even Controller restart doesn’t help

-          ODL controller goes away and back online in fuel time to time

-          SFC UI very-very slow

I’m wondering if all these problems are due to low performance of our node? In 
presentation from Luis Gomez I fount next table with requirements and we are 
above minimum values:

[cid:1489576205.3611.34.camel@ericsson.com]
But I guess it might be for configurations without OpenStack and when ODL work 
as PlugIn for Fuel/Openstack requirements should be higher?
For example on http://artifacts.opnfv.org/pharos/docs/pharos-spec.html I see 
that 32Gb and Intel Xeon E5-2600v2 Series (Ivy Bridge and newer, or similar) 
are mentioned.

Could you please confirm if our problems are really due to too low performance 
of HW and if so, then which characteristics are recommended?

Thank you in advance!
BR/Anton.

From: Chivkunov, Anton
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 11:28 AM
To: 'Michael Polenchuk'
Cc: 
opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>
Subject: RE: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [fuel][plugins][odl] SFC UI

Hi Michael.

Ok, clear, thank you for clarifications!
I’m really happy that we were able to get UI after installing “feature:install 
odl-sfc-ui”, proposed by Pau.

Thanks to both of you for quick response!

BR/Anton.


From: Michael Polenchuk [mailto:mpolenc...@mirantis.com]
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 10:51 AM
To: Chivkunov, Anton
Cc: 
opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [fuel][plugins][odl] SFC UI

Hi Anton,

The patch is on review:
https://review.openstack.org/435878

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Chivkunov, Anton 
<achiv...@mera.ru<mailto:achiv...@mera.ru>> wrote:
Just want to modify subject.

From: Chivkunov, Anton
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 1:53 PM
To: 
'opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>'
Subject: [fuel][plugins][odl]

Hi Experts!

We have an environment, which consist of 3 Controller and 2 compute nodes, 
where we would like to try SFC.
Deployment was done using Fuel, with OpenDaylight (with SFC features) and 
Openvswitch plugins installed. But after deployment in OpenDaylight DLUX user 
interface we don’t have anything related to SFC. It refer us to page like this 
(not …/sfc/index.html):

[cid:1489576205.3611.35.camel@ericsson.com]
When we try to open http://192.168.203.210:8181/sfc/index.htm manually, we 
getting error (no such page)

When I go to OpenDaylight shell on controller node, I see in the list of 
installed features that next SFC-related features are installed:
opendaylight-user@root>feature:list -i | grep -i sfc
odl-ovsdb-sfc-api                              | 1.3.0-Boron      | x         | 
odl-ovsdb-sfc-1.3.0-Boron            | OpenDaylight :: ovsdb-sfc :: api
odl-ovsdb-sfc                                  | 1.3.0-Boron      | x         | 
odl-ovsdb-sfc-1.3.0-Boron            | OpenDaylight :: ovsdb-sfc
odl-ovsdb-sfc-rest                             | 1.3.0-Boron      | x         | 
odl-ovsdb-sfc-1.3.0-Boron            | OpenDaylight :: ovsdb-sfc :: REST
odl-sfc-model                                  | 0.3.0-Boron      | x         | 
odl-sfc-0.3.0-Boron                  | OpenDaylight :: sfc :: Model
odl-sfc-provider                               | 0.3.0-Boron      | x         | 
odl-sfc-0.3.0-Boron                  | OpenDaylight :: sfc :: Provider
odl-sfc-provider-rest                          | 0.3.0-Boron      | x         | 
odl-sfc-0.3.0-Boron                  | OpenDaylight :: sfc :: Provider
odl-sfc-ovs                                    | 0.3.0-Boron      | x         | 
odl-sfc-0.3.0-Boron                  | OpenDaylight :: OpenvSwitch
odl-sfc-openflow-renderer                      | 0.3.0-Boron      | x         | 
odl-sfc-0.3.0-Boron                  | OpenDaylight :: sfc-openflow-renderer

I’m wondering if we have to do some additional steps after Fuel deployment with 
plugin to get SFC UI available? I was not able to find any instruction for this 
part and supposed that OpenDaylight DLUX user interface will open SFC UI.

Thank you in advance!
BR/Anton.

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