Hi Tapio, While it might seem helpful for newcomers to see a ranking of projects by activity, I am wondering if newcomers really pick the projects they want to engage in based on activity rather than interest or need. If that is the case, I am wondering if smaller projects with less activity would get into even more trouble finding interested contributors, thereby worsening their situation.
In general, however, I don't object compiling metrics because anyone interested in them could collect them by themselves by looking at the repos, the mailing lists etc. In this sense, I regard compiling the metrics centrally and automatically as a service. Georg From: opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org [mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org] On Behalf Of Tapio Tallgren Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 8:38 AM To: opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Following up on Project Health metrics discussion Hi, The way I see it, the value in project metrics is mainly for newcomers and for people who do not follow OPNFV very closely. There is already a large number of projects, and 1. Some of them are not very active and some one might call "dead". It would be good to prompt the PTLs of those project to initiate the project closure process, unless they are determined to do something in the future (nothing wrong with this). 2. It would be good to be able to highlight the most active project with some metric. Then, as a newcomer, you would be able to focus on those ones. The purpose of the project metric is to be able to somehow objectively measure the projects. There is a large number of different metrics defined so that any kind of project can show that they are active. There could be a better way to clean out dead projects and pick the most active ones. This is one way. -Tapio On 09/07/2016 09:24 AM, Frank Brockners (fbrockne) wrote: +1. Also note that when we defined the project lifecycle we used metrics like the ones mentioned only as guidance rather than something to compute a composite value - and even there, we did not constrain things to metrics in OPNFV only. Frank From: SULLIVAN, BRYAN L [mailto:bs3...@att.com] Sent: Dienstag, 6. September 2016 18:48 To: Frank Brockners (fbrockne) <fbroc...@cisco.com><mailto:fbroc...@cisco.com>; Raymond Paik <rp...@linuxfoundation.org><mailto:rp...@linuxfoundation.org>; opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org> Subject: RE: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Following up on Project Health metrics discussion I'm unsure of the overall value of this exercise. Simply ask the PTLs what the "health" of the project is. An honest PTL will tell you, and that's the only type we should elect. Publish metrics if you want (we already do), but I would avoid trying to draw conclusions from them. We do not have the luxury (if you can even call it that!) of creating and maintaining a project-introspection framework ala what you might see in corporate development shops. Even considering what metrics are "useful" for specific purposes (e.g. what "useful"/reliable implications can you draw from them) takes too much time away from the real work. Thanks, Bryan Sullivan | AT&T From: opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org> [mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org] On Behalf Of Frank Brockners (fbrockne) Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 7:39 AM To: Raymond Paik; opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org> Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Following up on Project Health metrics discussion Hi Ray, thanks for posting the initial cut. IMHO a "composite score", as proposed on the page, could be *very* misleading, especially for projects which do most of the work upstream. So unless we track all upstream repos and upstream Jiras (or similar), I would suggest to *not* compute a composite score but evaluate things qualitatively only. Thanks, Frank From: opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org> [mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org] On Behalf Of Raymond Paik Sent: Montag, 29. August 2016 19:33 To: opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org> Subject: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Following up on Project Health metrics discussion All, I had an action item from last week to start a wiki page for the "project health metrics". You can find a proposal page at https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/PROJ/Project+Health+Metrics. Please add your comments/feedback via email or directly on the wiki page. I listed four activity areas that was discussed on the TSC call, but feel free to add other activities that the community should consider. Thanks, Ray _______________________________________________ opnfv-tech-discuss mailing list opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org> https://lists.opnfv.org/mailman/listinfo/opnfv-tech-discuss
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