On Sat, Feb 03, 2024 at 05:42:22PM +0100, Felix Baumann via openwrt-devel wrote: > The sender domain has a DMARC Reject/Quarantine policy which disallows > sending mailing list messages using the original "From" header. > > To mitigate this problem, the original message has been wrapped > automatically by the mailing list software.
> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2024 17:42:22 +0100 > From: Felix Baumann <felix.baum...@freifunk-aachen.de> > To: openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org > Subject: Re: Linux kernel 6.1 or 6.6 for OpenWrt 24.x release? > > Hi, > > from what I imagine the maintainance standpoint to be: > Kernel 6.6 is probably still quick to migrate to. Most targets that already > moved, moved early (due to need and due to great work by the devs). > The targets you listed would take long to switch to the new Kernel regardless > of Kernel 6.6 or 6.1 > > 6.6 probably requires less maintenance for y'all in the long run (like for > the next 3 years atleast due to catching up closer with kernel development) > and has more fixes and features. > The effort for 5.15 stays more or less the same, just a few months longer in > the master branch though some targets with higher velocity will likely drop > it early and switch to 6.6 fully then. > > There could be a blocker: certain features that are required to be > implemented by OpenWrt for certain targets that increase the effort and I > don't know about. > > Sure the branch off will take longer, but 23 is at a good point and there's > still some stuff left to be ironed out/ stabilized. > Maybe this means a release in 2025, but maybe it also comes with support for > new WiFi and more devices then. > > I don't have any say in this but I fully support the choice Kernel 6.6. Drop > 6.1 over the next months and do no release with it. :) I just also thought about this in the past days, and as the amount of backported patched on top of Linux 6.1 is becoming increasingly annoying I would also be in favor of not doing a release based on Linux 6.1 and go straight with Linux 6.6. I'd also volunteer to take care of hardware targets if needed. > > -------- > > What can be done from a community stand-point to accelerate rollout of Kernel > 6.6 for the targets you listed? Mostly testing and reporting issues or it > running fault-free in the corresponding PR? > What makes it harder for these targets? All the subtargets and their > different popularity (like mt7620 and xway/danube)? > Atleast for ramips it felt like the switch to 5.15 in master had taken longer > than it needed to have. > > Regards > Felix Baumann > > Am 3. Februar 2024 13:06:13 MEZ schrieb Hauke Mehrtens <ha...@hauke-m.de>: > >Hi, > > > >I track the status of the Linux kernel 6.1 migration in this github issue: > >https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/issues/14546 > > > >There are still many targets on kernel 5.15 without testing support for > >kernel 6.1 in OpenWrt master. I assume that we need at least 4 months to get > >everything to 6.1 and more or less stable. Kernel 6.1 support is also > >missing for some important targets like lantiq, realtek and ramips. > > > > > >Which kernel should we use for the next major OpenWrt release? > >We have two options and I would like to get some feedback on these: > > > >1. Do the OpenWrt 24.X release with kernel 6.1. Branch off when all or most > >of the targets are on kernel 6.1 by default. > >2. Do the OpenWrt 24.X release with kernel 6.6. Branch off when all or most > >of the targets are on kernel 6.6 by default. Do not do any stable OpenWrt > >release which supports kernel 6.1. > > > >Doing a OpenWrt release with multiple kernels cases too much maintenance > >effort from my point of view based on previews experience. > > > > > >I think with kernel 6.1 we can branch off at around May 2024. With kernel > >6.6 we could probably branch off around September 2024. The final release > >will be out about 2 to 4 months later. > > > >Currently OpenWrt releases are about 1.5 years behind the Linux LTS > >releases. When we use kernel 6.1 for the next release we will continue to > >stay 1.5 years behind. When we switch to kernel 6.6 and do not do any > >release with kernel 6.1 we will probably only stay 10 months behind Linux > >LTS kernels. > > > >There is already a PR requiring kernel 6.6: > >https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/pull/14357 > > > > > >Currently I would prefer to use kernel 6.6 to get closer to the recent Linux > >LTS releases. > > > >Hauke > > > >_______________________________________________ > >openwrt-devel mailing list > >openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org > >https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel > > _______________________________________________ > openwrt-devel mailing list > openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org > https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel _______________________________________________ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
