> On Nov 13, 2023, at 7:26 PM, Elliott Mitchell <ehem+open...@m5p.com> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 12:48:14PM +0000, Daniel Golle wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 01:30:10PM +0100, Paul Spooren wrote:
>>> 
>>> How about we follow the approach of Alpine Linux[1] and offer a standard, 
>>> an extended and a virtual firmware for the x86/64 target?
>>> 
>>> What packages specifically is another discussion but the approach could be 
>>> that standard contains all kmods to get network working on all device, 
>>> extended includes extra LED drivers etc and virtual only contains network 
>>> drivers for, well, virtual things.
>> 
>> +1
>> I like that much more than adding board-specific images on a platform
>> with standardized boot process (such as x86 or armsr).
> 
> [...]
> 
> The real issue is VMs are unlikely to see devices typically present on
> bare metal computers.  Thermal capabilities?  Nope.  Processor frequency
> selection?  Nope.  Microcode reloading?  Nope.
> 
> Each hypervisor will have a small set of drivers guaranteed to be
> present.  These though will be completely different between hypervisors.


With KVM and kmod-vfio-pci you can do reverse-pass thru where the host isn't 
controlling the hardware but the guest is.  I know some people who do this to 
test WiFi drivers from KVM guests.

-Philip


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