Few months ago there was some debate for how we handle certificate for
luci page: make user to click though certificate warning is not that
great for security so here is a proposal for autometically assign a
worldwide unique subdomain and how to make valid certificate for it, and
make sure we and connect to the device he is expecting.
Openwrt as project get a CA certificate with name constrained to only
able to sign subdomains of [luci.openwrt.org]. this makes we Technically
Constrained Subordinate CA, (from let's encrypt or digicert), let's call
it the Openwrt CA here (CA ) this makes we don't create too much load to
normal CA like let's encrypt, and as we have complete control of this
zone we can give subdomains as we want like, and don't need full audit
like fully pledged CA and handled like a wildcard cert for them, but the
CA system can be hosted by us and request won't offloaded to upper CA's
server. (except OCSP request, but it can be cashed)
and assignment of a subdomain and it's certificate happens this way :
{everything below will be done on https or otherwise encrypted channel}
1. on first boot, router want to get it's luci certificate send its ssh
host key to Openwrt CA reserve subdomain base32(hash of public
key).luci.openwrt.org (like onion v3 addressed does)
2. Openwrt CA sends nonce to our router
3. router signs nonce+timestamp+[hash of CSR] with sent ssh host key,
and send back to openwrt CA send this signed message with CSR
4. Openwrt CA verify other end controls host key match with hash and
confirmed the CSR, sign the certificate with (key from CSR/SAN with
domain we derived from host key) and sent back to router
5. router now has valid cerfiticate, redirect 192.168.1.1 or openwrt lan
to https version of signed subdomain
now user only have to check :
1. page has valid certificate
2. the subdomain is match with device's ssh host key
and this verify it's the device we wanted.
--- some consideration
A. how authoritative DNS server reply on public dns lookup those
luci.openwrt.org? act like an dDNS with same verification for DNS
update, or just not answer?
B. router itself need to catches it's on subdomain lookup and answers
it's own address on LAN side.
C. this idea doesn't have real way to ratelimit the certificate request
other them by request ip: I'm not sure that'll be enough
D. Let's encrypt doesn't like to sign such certificate as normal
service, but maybe we can persuade them to sign one (it's one time job
for them)
E. with this now we have another server to manage.
P.S is this too large wall of text?
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