On 11/08/2020 02:30, Mauro Mozzarelli wrote:
On 10/08/2020 10:08, Adrian Schmutzler wrote:
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Subject: Re: Policy on BUILD_PATENTED
On 09/08/2020 12:44, Bjørn Mork wrote:
Mauro Mozzarelli <ma...@ezplanet.org> writes:
On 09/08/2020 03:35, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
I believe OpenWrt should not even *consider* placing its umbrella
organization(s) -- which are based on the U.S. -- in legal risk
without at least contacting them first and getting their approval.
Has anyone asked SPI about it yet?
Who/What are these "umbrella" organizations? What is their
relationship with OpenWrt?
This is answered by the FAQ:
https://openwrt.org/faq/general
And what is the "legal risk"?
I guess that's the question you should ask the SPI.
This is not a technical or a political discussion. It's about not
putting your friends at unnecessary risk, even if they happen to live
under some regime you don't like or respect.
Bjørn
Although I respect other's opinions and rules, I do not think it is right to
limit
everyone's freedom, just to appease some.
That's why we allow you to use BUILD_PATENTED and not just remove that stuff
entirely.
If there is a minority who is unable to use parts of this software, we can make
it easy for that minority to be able to strip those software components (or
they can propose and implement changes that achieve that themselves), but
in no way limit or prevent everyone from making use of it.
But still, OpenWrt as a project/organization in embedded in an environment it
has to care about.
And that of course includes caring about the interests of important stakeholders (or at least ask
them about those), and not make our decisions based on how we would like the world to be.
I think Bjørn put that in a nutshell nicely.
Best
Adrian
Citizens of the European Union are major contributors to OpenWrt and other Open Source projects, The
European Union, after several years of debate. listened to its citizens, not corporations, and has
put into law that freedom from software patents that allows us all to contribute to the community
without fear of litigation nor constraints imposed from monopolistic organizations.
The EU and its citizens are too important stakeholders. EU law, and EU citizens' will must too be
respected.
I'm not a contributor or serious user so take my words with as much salt as you please, but I think
it is worth noting that decisions like this play a big part in establishing what is considered normal.
The unlicensed use of cryptography is strictly illegal in countries such as Iran and Cuba, but I
know of no FOSS project which even considers forgoing cryptography in order to comply with such
rules. The burden of licensing or disabling encryption which is placed on developers there serves as
a constant reminder that such restrictions are not normal.
I don't want to open the debate on the morality of sanctions and placing more burden on those
peoples least able to handle it, but the United States is not a poor country of starving citizens,
nor is it a helpless people ruled over by a tyrannical dictator (whatever you may hear). If
Americans wish to stop people stifling entire areas of research because they "had that idea in the
shower once", then they will vote to end these abstract and open-ended software patents.
Again, I am not a contributor so my beliefs should not hold sway - but I think the beliefs of the
OpenWRT community should.
Thanks,
Caleb
P.S. I hope I'm not going to see a reply arguing that a project with "open" in the name and
"freedom" in the slogan should be apolitical.
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