Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 17:56:38 -0400 From: Daniel Dickinson<open...@daniel.thecshore.com> To: OpenWrt Development List<openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org> Subject: Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] OpenWrt / LEDE Message-ID: <1464126998.1239.137.camel@homehost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
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Let's see if any of the remaining OpenWrt devs at least publicly support adopting them or some variation of them. As I've said before my impression is that LEDE-style rules are not all that welcomed (and that's based on the interactions I saw on the private openwrt channels when I was a developer, not just a pure outsider view; it's possible my impression is wrong, but the toxicity described previously was in large part negative reaction by folkds in the LEDE team to toxic comments from at least one of the remaining OpenWrt devs; certainly it damaged my opinion of him (although the toxicity also damaged my opinion of a couple of LEDE folks too)).
Sigh...
It's not as if LEDE offered the changes to OpenWrt and we voted against them causing a split -- there was literally no discussion and no warning prior to the public announcement. LEDE just suddenly existed and the story quickly became that the reason for their existence was because OpenWrt somehow prevented them from making changes. At no point did OpenWrt veto changes or even have the option to; the truth is that we agree changes need to be made. By not including OpenWrt in the discussions LEDE ran afoul of their own transparency leading to the false impression that OpenWrt was somehow against the changes, causing a split in the community in terms of LEDE vs OpenWrt with various amounts of hostility on the mailing lists. None of this is healthy or constructive.
Let me be very clear: nobody on the OpenWrt side is against the changes LEDE is trying to make. It is our position that this whole thing is a misunderstanding and that the projects should attempt to merge again. I have been trying to arrange talks between the two sides but between work schedules, timezone conflicts and FUD regarding the split it's been very difficult.
- mbm
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