Hi Andrew, ( Responses Below )
On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 19:27 -0700, Andrew Johnson wrote: > Hi Matthew, > Thank you for taking the time to respond. > Unfortunately, I'm finding that rather than making things clearer, > it's making things more confusing. (More below) > > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Matthew Fatheree > <matthew.fathe...@belkin.com> wrote: > Hi Andrew, > Once that process is complete users will be able to build a > firmware > that can be directly flashed onto the WRT1900AC. Until that > time, the > code changes have been posted to the mailing list, and users > are able to > access those, and create a firmware image while the approval > process > completes. > > As already pointed out by Felix, your patches do not contain the > necessary wireless driver, so OpenWRT users are not actually able to > create a working firmware for the WRT1900AC with those patches. So > your statement that "users are able to access those [patches], and > create a firmware image while the approval process completes." isn't > true, because said firmware image wouldn't actually work. > The firmware can be built with what we have provided, and will run on the WRT1900AC successfully. It is true that it would lack wireless support, but that would not stop the firmware from actually working. We are actively working on the package to support the wireless hardware, this will not be overlooked. > > I am sorry for any confusion, and we hope to have our code > changes > accepted soon. > > > You're implying that acceptance of the patches by OpenWRT is the thing > preventing a working OpenWRT image, but that is not the case, since > you haven't provided a wireless driver. > > > So to be clear, I'm hoping for some acknowledgement of the work that > still needs to be done on your part. I can acknowledge that this process is ongoing, and our engagement with OpenWRT is not yet complete. We are still actively working on to address the issues identified by the OpenWRT community. > > For example "We realize that the OpenWRT readiness that we've been > claiming in our marketing materials isn't quite ready yet and > Linksys/Belkin still has work to do to make it happen. Right now we're > still missing a necessary wireless driver, but expect to have it ready > by <some general estimate>"... > > > > The lack of this kind of acknowledgement in your response along with > your statement that you're waiting on patch acceptance from OpenWRT > makes me think you folks don't even realize that there's still work to > be done, which is why I feel even more confused than before... > I apologize for the confusion. I am optimistic, that things will be cleared up soon. I appreciate your enthusiasm. regards Matt > > On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 21:05 -0700, Andrew Johnson wrote: > > Hello, > > > > > > Now that this router is available at retailers [4] and we're > seeing > > all kinds of reviews pop up, if possible I'd like to get > some > > clarification on the nature of the collaboration between > Linksys and > > the OpenWRT developers on the WRT1900AC. > > > > > > Linksys has been making claims in their marketing materials > that the > > WRT1900AC is OpenWRT Ready [1]: > > "OpenWRT Ready > > Over the past months Linksys and the OpenWRT project have > been > > collaborating to ensure open source readiness and continued > > development for the new WRT." > > > > > > I've seen at least one account from a person that has this > router in > > their hands, but it doesn't seem to be "OpenWRT ready" for > them [2]. > > Indeed, I believe this reviewer is right -- correct me if > I'm wrong, > > but one cannot download and flash a readily available > OpenWRT image > > that would actually function. > > Moreover, this reviewer [2] claims that a Linksys support > technician > > stated that flashing OpenWRT would void the warranty, which > is > > interesting, if true. > > > > > > The press release [1] also mentions collaborating with the > OpenWRT > > project "over the past months", but the oldest > communication to > > openwrt-devel seems to be 13 days ago -- Apr 3, 2014 from > Matthew > > Fatheree when a patch was submitted [3]. > > > > > > Linksys is also using purported quotes from an OpenWRT > representative > > in their marketing materials [1]: > > “The history of OpenWrt goes back more than a decade when it > all began > > with a project to hack and modify the Linksys WRT54G. A lot > has > > changed since then,” said Gregers Petersen, relationship > manager at > > OpenWrt. “Today OpenWrt is a complete embedded Linux > distribution that > > enables users to be innovative and create new solutions and > functions. > > Other key elements of OpenWrt are source code transparency, > security > > and extensive package repositories. We see it as a very > positive > > development to have collaborated directly with the Linksys > engineering > > team on the new WRT1900AC router. As a result of that > consumers will > > have the freedom of choice between the Linksys default > firmware and > > OpenWrt. The OpenWrt developers recognize the potential of > the > > collaboration with Linksys, and the opportunities it brings > for more > > devices and solutions.” > > > > > > > > > > Something doesn't seem to jive here. Can anyone fill in the > blanks? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20140410005397/en/Linksys-Starts-Shipping-WRT1900AC-Successor-Legendary-WRT#.U09GUvldVyV > > > > 2. > > > > http://www.amazon.com/review/R15JCQ96X8Z3WY/ref=cm_cr_dp_title?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00IGL3L2E&channel=detail-glance&nodeID=541966&store=pc > > 3. > > > > > https://lists.openwrt.org/pipermail/openwrt-devel/2014-April/024703.html > > 4. http://goo.gl/4bgh8b (Best Buy WRT1900AC page) > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Confidential This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property > of Belkin International, Inc. and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and > are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this > e-mail is addressed. 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