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Hi

Am 10.09.13 09:53, schrieb Bastian Bittorf:
> * Luis R. Rodriguez <mcg...@qca.qualcomm.com> [10.09.2013 09:32]:
>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez 
>> <mcg...@qca.qualcomm.com> wrote:
>>> From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcg...@qca.qualcomm.com>
>>> 
>>> iw is to iwconfig as ip is to ifconfig
>>> 
>>> As with iwconfig, ifconfig is deprecated, promote usage of ip 
>>> using netlink.
>>> 
>>> Signed-off-by: Luis R. Rodriguez <mcg...@qca.qualcomm.com>
>> 
>> Actually perhaps its best to enable iproute2 package instead.
> 
> This is discussion is old, an there are some reasons not to
> switch. Mostly because of size und that most functions which are
> possible with 'ip' are not used in standard builts. if we switch to
> 'ip' we should also drop 'ifconfig','netstat' and 'route'.
> 
> a quick 'git grep' show usage of 'ifconfig' in preinit-scripts and 
> '/lib/wifi/hostap.sh' + /lib/wifi/mac80211.sh (see appendix), but
> all of them can be converted.
> 
> i would like to see openwrt with a modern 'ip' - but i'am mostly
> alone 8-)
I am on your site.

> 
> some size-related facts on ar71xx:
> 
> 99439 bytes - ip_3.10.0-1 229047 bytes - busybox_1.19.4-7(standard
> openrt) 218418 bytes - busybox without ifconfig, netstat, route
> 
> so we add ~80k to a standard built. i'am ok with this, because we
> also add a lot of features and possibilities which are simply not
> possible with ifconfig/route/netstat.
I think you must compare busybox with ip, ifconfig, netstat and route.
> 
> the busybox-native ip-command is limited/uncomplete and we should
> not discuss it at the moment IMHO.
busybox has no support for ip rule ACTION [ prohibit | reject |
unreachable ] . That is a show stopper for me.


Greetings
            Patrick

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