In China, this datasheet is full of the underground market. Just openwrt not
made it.
I believe that not only China, the more countries there is such a thing.

thanks jason.
thanks florian.

2010/7/16 Spudz76 <spud...@gmail.com>

> They have these datasheets and STILL can't do it.  ouch.
>
> jason duhamell wrote:
>
>> I would like to hire people to move to china, I am sick of the people
>> building stuff not knowing what they are building. Education is a huge
>> problem in china and not many universities teach linux. If anybody would
>> like to discuss that, feel free to join in the conversation.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Spudz76 <spud...@gmail.com <mailto:
>> spud...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>    I'm positive it's not his own NDA that is being violated, he's
>>    just resourceful and weird things happen in China.  He never made
>>    such an agreement and is not bound by the scary little grey
>>    watermarks, and neither are we.  The only people or projects at
>>    any real risk here are whoever leaked it and broke their NDA
>>    contract, but then Atheros would have to be smart enough to
>>    individually tag each released PDF with an identifier that can't
>>    be scrubbed or modified in order to trace a leak back to its
>>    source.  Considering this PDF doesn't even have the simple options
>>    enabled for "no print" and "no cut/paste" I completely doubt they
>>    did any of that.  Also it was generated by "cairo graphics", an
>>    open source graphics package with a PDF output generator, so it's
>>    probably already been scrubbed or Atheros is too cheap to use real
>>    Adobe software to generate its datasheets.
>>
>>    Technically most of the reverse engineering that goes on in order
>>    for this project to exist in the first place is just as dangerous
>>    and/or illegal.  There is code from improperly packaged GPL
>>    tarballs that still has "Broadcom Proprietary Do Not Distribute"
>>    or at least their copyright in the headers, and
>>    Linksys/Belkin/whoever didn't get legally kicked in the balls for it.
>>
>>    Basically it would cost them more to chase and enforce their NDA
>>    than it would be worth, on a product this old.  They already moved
>>    on to the AR9xxx series, and that's what they would more likely
>>    stomp on people for, if even.
>>
>>    Of course still toss in the token "We can't be involved with this
>>    type of thing" as a good measure, but then don't negate it
>>    completely by basically saying "but I still want these if you
>>    email me secretly" in more or less the same sentence.  You might
>>    as well have just said thanks.
>>
>>    Florian Fainelli wrote:
>>
>>        On Friday 16 July 2010 15:05:51 jason duhamell wrote:
>>
>>            fuck them. open source all the way.
>>
>>
>>        You can express your point of view, I do not really care, but
>>        you do not have to impact the project in its whole by
>>        violating your own NDA and pushing such a datasheet in a
>>        public mailing-list.
>>
>>        What happens if Atheros wants to take down the site?
>>
>>        Think twice before you type Send please.
>>
>>
>>            On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Florian Fainelli
>>            <flor...@openwrt.org <mailto:flor...@openwrt.org>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>                On Friday 16 July 2010 14:59:03 Roman Yeryomin wrote:
>>
>>                    Thanks Jason, datasheet is always valuable stuff!
>>
>>                Yeah especially if you are not allowed to distribute it.
>>
>>                Please send such stuff in private in order not to
>>                compromise the project
>>                with
>>                potential legal issues.
>>                --
>>                Florian
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