Hi,
Here's the summary of the IRC meeting.
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COMMUNITY MEETING
Place: #openvpn-meeting on libera.chat
Date: Wed 14th July 2021
Time: 14:00 CET (12:00 UTC)
Planned meeting topics for this meeting were here:
<https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/Topics-2021-07-14>
Your local meeting time is easy to check from services such as
<http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock>
SUMMARY
cron2, d12fk, mattock, MaxF, ordex and plaisthos participated in this
meeting.
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Talked about the OpenVPN 2021 hackathon. Nothing concrete was decided,
but a few options for accommodation and for the meeting room were
discussed. Noted that being fully vaccinated will probably help
participants avoid quarantines.
Invited Jan and Simon (who have joined the hackathon in the past) to
join this year as well.
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Gave a brief development status update:
- OpenVPN 2.4: nothing has happened
- OpenVPN 2.5: nothing has happened
- OpenVPN 2.6: ordex and cron are working on plaisthos' TLS magic patches
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Noted that mattock will be on vacation for two weeks starting next week.
Also noted that dazo is currently on vacation.
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Full chatlog attached
(14:06:06) mattock: ok
(14:59:43) MaxF [~m...@cust-95-128-91-242.breedbanddelft.nl] è entrato nella
stanza.
(14:59:59) MaxF: Hi!
(15:01:23) mattock: hi!
(15:01:27) mattock: who do we have here today?
(15:01:43) ***cron2_ is halfway there
(15:04:33) ***d12fk is here now
(15:05:22) mattock: welcome!
(15:07:44) cron2_: ordex excused himself, on a mission
(15:07:48) cron2_: what about dazo?
(15:08:13) d12fk: dazo is on vacation
(15:09:07) cron2_: hrmph, does not help with hackathon planning
(15:09:32) d12fk: reminds me of that I wanted to contact the NH near main
station
(15:09:59) plaisthos: yeah
(15:10:10) d12fk: the have meeting rooms, place looks reasonably nice and is
central
(15:11:04) cron2_: I might have an interesting other option here - we got
offered to use rooms of a local company that a friend of mine knows well enough
to ask
(15:11:17) mattock: ah that would be nice!
(15:11:23) cron2_: it's more in the south of munich, but still public transport
(15:11:25) d12fk: this one
https://www.google.com/travel/hotels/Munich/entity/CgsI_oKyrfuS-NuJARAB
(15:11:40) cron2_: https://www.qaware.de/kontakt/
(15:12:41) cron2_: d12fk: looks nice and is really central ("right at the
central station")
(15:13:44) d12fk: I'm in favor of the meeting room at qaware. that is only for
the hackathon and not company meeting I suppose?
(15:13:59) cron2_: I asked for "Tuesday to Sunday" and they agreed
(15:14:12) d12fk: oh splendid
(15:14:20) plaisthos: d12fk: more space for the company part is not wrong
(15:14:32) cron2_: I called it a 6-day hackathon, though... but the difference
is somewhat marginal, if it's "just me and maybe syzzer"
(15:14:50) plaisthos: and MaxF
(15:15:03) cron2_: I do not have all details, I only received that e-mail ~1
hour ago, with "yes, we can do that, let's discuss the details"
(15:16:00) d12fk: I think we can make it work any way
(15:16:47) d12fk: maybe the room availability might be an issue
(15:18:10) cron2_: d12fk: can you check with the hotel, I check with qaware,
and then we finalize something when dazo is back?
(15:18:45) MaxF: Was the plan to have the hackathon for the whole time span
shown in the doodle poll? I thought that was just to check when everyone has
time
(15:18:46) d12fk: sounds good
(15:19:21) d12fk: Hotel close to qaware:
https://www.google.com/travel/hotels/Munich/entity/ChkIir_a5-vRyaLlARoML2cvMTJxNHRsZzkyEAE
(15:19:32) cron2_: MaxF: hackathon is Fri-Sat Nov 5-Nov 7
(15:19:59) cron2_: Corp people meet Tuesday-Friday before the "community
hackathon weekend", so Nov 2-Nov 4
(15:20:35) cron2_: d12fk: BOLDly go where no hacker has been before? :-)
(15:20:35) d12fk: fri-sun, no?
(15:21:06) d12fk: ordex: soory it is not the italics hotel
(15:21:28) cron2_: uh, yes. 3 days.
(15:21:36) cron2_: the date was correct, the weekday not
(15:21:56) MaxF: Corp people are OpenVPN Inc.?
(15:22:23) cron2_: yes
(15:22:37) d12fk: eye-to-eye team meeting
(15:27:53) cron2_: okay
(15:28:01) cron2_: more questions related to hackathon?
(15:28:16) d12fk: # of ppl I should ask the room for?
(15:28:41) cron2_: 10-11 is the current guesstimate
(15:28:42) d12fk: ist the doodle list complete?
(15:29:23) cron2_: no idea. Is James on it?
(15:29:28) d12fk: yeah
(15:30:39) cron2_: so how many on the doodle (I lost the URL)?
(15:30:48) d12fk: https://doodle.com/poll/ac9dbsqwd8ftkqup
(15:31:07) d12fk: 11 (with Antonio questionable)
(15:31:08) mattock: the list looks correct
(15:31:40) d12fk: kk, going to ask for a room for 11/12 and 10/11 rooms then
(15:31:54) cron2_: all the usual suspects are on it, except Simon
(15:32:03) mattock: did someone ask Simon?
(15:32:41) d12fk: MaxF: is it okay to book you on the NH, if we decide to go
there? or do you guys want to stay somewhere else?
(15:33:37) cron2_: mattock: not that I'm aware of
(15:33:42) mattock: cron2: I'll ask now
(15:35:51) mattock: done
(15:35:54) MaxF: The NH?
(15:36:02) d12fk: yes
(15:36:24) mattock: one of the above hotels I presume
(15:36:34) d12fk: first link above
(15:36:39) cron2_: the hotel with the meeting room, in case qaware does not
work out
(15:36:57) MaxF: Looks good to me
(15:37:41) ordex: hello!
(15:37:54) d12fk: heyho
(15:38:05) mattock: hi ordex!
(15:38:25) MaxF: "you guys" is Steffan and me, right? I can't speak for
Steffan, obviously
(15:38:37) MaxF: hello @ordex!
(15:39:30) d12fk: you just drag him along =)
(15:39:33) mattock: anything else on the hackathon
(15:39:34) mattock: ?
(15:40:13) ordex: the NH looks nice :D
(15:40:35) ordex: cron2_: should we ask JJK if he wants to join too?
(15:40:39) ordex: he joined in the past
(15:40:52) mattock: oh yes
(15:40:58) mattock: let me do that as well
(15:41:02) cron2_: he sometimes visited and sometimes not, so ask him, we
should do :)
(15:41:26) ordex: ay ay
(15:41:38) MaxF: do you have an estimate on how much it costs per person to
join the hackathon?
(15:42:01) cron2_: MaxF: "nothing"
(15:42:13) ordex: it's all about accommodation and food
(15:42:21) cron2_: as in "everybody pays for his/her travel and hotel"
(15:42:29) cron2_: and then we get companies to sponsor food and beer
(15:42:43) cron2_: like, Fox has sponsored one dinner in the past, but this is
not a requirement
(15:43:08) cron2_: in milano, OpenVPN Tech has paid most of the food :-)
(15:43:22) MaxF: so the meeting room is sponsored
(15:43:38) cron2_: we hope :-)
(15:43:52) ordex: we've been to milan? :D
(15:44:09) ***cron2_ is all confused... trento... :-)
(15:44:42) ordex: :)
(15:44:52) mattock: almost the same city
(15:45:19) ordex: yeah
(15:45:45) cron2_: MaxF: but seriously, since openvpn tech is using the room
half the time for "corp meeting", they took the cost for the meeting room last
time. The meetings before, we usually visited someone (SpaceNet, Fox,
Sophos...) who offered a room.
(15:46:38) cron2_: which at the same time explains why we limit attendance to
"somewhat active contributors", and not "joe random from the street who has run
an openvpn server once", because that needs totally different logistics
(15:47:03) cron2_: and for this time, I think we MUST limit attendance to
"fully vaccinated"
(15:47:26) ordex: well, we technically need the green pass for traveling, no?
(15:47:34) ordex: otherwise we'd have to stick to the quarantine
(15:47:55) d12fk: who knows what November will bring, but being fully vaxxed is
probably a plus
(15:48:22) ordex: yeah
(15:48:42) cron2_: ordex: no idea what will happen between now and November,
but at least those folks that I spoke to seem to be much more at ease if you
tell them "all vaccinated" :-)
(15:48:53) ordex: yap yap
(15:48:56) ordex: makes sense
(15:49:26) MaxF: I don't think getting a vaccine by then will be a problem, at
least in Europe
(15:49:39) MaxF: I've got my 2nd appointment in early August
(15:49:42) mattock: I'll have the second one in August
(15:50:01) cron2_: DE has hit a tripping point last week - all of a sudden we
have more vaccine than people actively queueing for it. So now we need to
reach out to the "passive willing"
(15:50:13) cron2_: I got my second shot 9 days ago \o/
(15:51:20) ordex: cron2_: does it mean "shoot people in the streets with
vaccines?" :D
(15:51:49) cron2_: ordex: more like "we make it easier for people", put
vaccination stations close to supermarkets or such
(15:51:49) MaxF: if tranquilizer guns work...
(15:51:57) ordex: yap yap
(15:52:24) cron2_: there seems to be like 30% of the adults that are
pro-vaccination "per se", but are too lazy to actively care for an appointment
(15:52:34) cron2_: and ~10% that are antivaxxers
(15:53:00) ***cron2_ is not making any gun remarks related to those
(15:53:33) mattock: take them behind the barn and vaccinate them? :D
(15:53:43) cron2_: tsk tsk
(15:53:54) cron2_: such is never voiced in public
(15:54:14) mattock: except at #openvpn-meeting which can sometimes be
politically incorrect
(15:54:17) mattock: anyhow
(15:54:24) mattock: anything else? we're running out of time
(15:54:59) cron2_: the 2.5 update is quick (nothing). the 2.6 update is quick
(close to nothing, ordex and I are working on plaisthos' TLS magic patches)
(15:55:12) cron2_: 2.4 nothing new
(15:55:19) mattock: yap
(15:55:36) mattock: oh, I will be on vacation starting next week for two weeks
(15:55:41) cron2_: for patch 1840 I had hoped for dazo, who might understand
this resolvconf confusion
(15:56:00) cron2_: mattock: vacation at home, or like "offline vacation"?
(15:56:15) mattock: offline sounds implausible
(15:56:30) mattock: but I might not be actively looking at a computer on some
days
(15:57:08) mattock: if I'm urgently needed a SMS is the best approach
(15:59:37) mattock: writing the summary now
(15:59:41) d12fk: are we done?
(15:59:44) mattock: I think so
(15:59:47) cron2_: yep
(15:59:54) ***d12fk waves good bye then
(15:59:58) cron2_: if someone understands resolvconf, be my guest with 1840 :-)
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