On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Gert Doering <g...@greenie.muc.de> wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 04:10:54PM +0300, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: >> >> And always have pam dependency for this example? >> > >> > FreeBSD, NetBSD, all Linuxes and Solaris have PAM anyway. >> > >> > So make this "if pam libraries + headers are detected, install auth-pam, >> > otherwise, not". >> >> We already discussed the automatic detection and integrity failure as result. > > Huh? You're the master of Autoconf, and I'm sure you will be able to > produce a working PAM detection for those platforms that have it.
Yes, and as such I tell you that automatic detection is something that leads to package breakage. We already discussed that in the lzo subject. I know you are fundamentally against any change, but I think I proved very well that I actually know what I am doing. > >> >> These plugins should be optional I don't see any value in enforcing >> >> them and their dependencies. >> > >> > If these plugins are useful for a large number of users, there is no >> > point in not installing them by default. >> >> They are not. > > Unfounded claim. I know one or two installations, and I am tracking this project more than 6 years. Come on! most of installations are plain public key without any of these plugins. There is no need for these if you configure your server. I simply don't understand your attitude... sorry, I simply don't. >> Exactly because the are not useful, I am for the split. >> Anyway, if you follow the apache example there is explicit >> enable/disable to each. > > And there are some that are enabled by default. Your point? These which enabled by default requires for proper apache functionality. There are absolutely no openvpn plugin that is actually required for anything. Please stop trying to just try to oppose... but think of the relevant of what you are referring. First you compare xorg to openvpn, which is totally invalid. Then you compare openvpn to apache, which is also invalid. What next? >> BTW: Packager of what platform are you? > > openwrt. Not that this is of any relevance. Exactly, so I think I am more experienced distro maintainer, please understand that I am taking from first hand experience, and I would like to help, plain positive help... I really don't understand why you are trying to force your opinion if you have theoretical knowledge. BTW: openwrt is a good example of a platform that does not need these plugins right? Alon. > > gert > -- > USENET is *not* the non-clickable part of WWW! > //www.muc.de/~gert/ > Gert Doering - Munich, Germany g...@greenie.muc.de > fax: +49-89-35655025 g...@net.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
