> -----Original Message----- > From: Turbo Fredriksson [mailto:tu...@bayour.com] > Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 10:13 AM > To: openstack List <openstack@lists.openstack.org> > Subject: Re: [Openstack] Trove MySQL v5.[67] images? > > On Oct 2, 2016, at 2:00 AM, Amrith Kumar wrote: > > > I recall from our conversation that you didn't "trust all these *stack > builders". > > If you are now using a system that is devstack based these images could > help. > > I still don't do that, it's all hand crafted from scratch. Well, almost - > I still use packages (which do _A LOT_ of the .. 'boring, simple' setup > for me) but that'll change next time. Next time I'm doing it from source > (because I'm embarrassed by the quality of the packages - I did a small > upgrade a few months ago and absolutly everything broke, I had to > completely > reinstall the controller)! > > That's the only way _I_ can learn! Others might be different and I respect > that, but _I_ need to do this from scratch ("the hard way" if you like) to > be able to gain anything from this - the point wasn't just to "get a test > setup of Openstack up and running" or "setup a test so I can look at it" > but actually setting up a production-like system and to be able to > administrate it and especially fix problems if (when!) they arise! AND to > gain knowledge on how all this works together. > >
[amrith] As I said in IRC, one doesn't begin a career in aviation by attempting to land a Tomcat on an aircraft carrier in rough seas, but you felt that it would be "fun". I hope you are having "fun". > It's been the worst few months in my life (and it's been a long life :) > with almost 24/7 work on getting this in the state it is now, but now that > almost everything works the way I want it, I feel a great satisfaction and > my knowledge of "The Cloud ((tm))" have been greatly improved and I almost > feel > I can put "Cloud Expert Extraordinair" on the CV :D :D. > > I wouldn't recommend this to anyone 'green', but anyone that's already > bald > (there's going to be a lot of 'hair tearing' and 'head scratching' :) and > those that have a 'bigger purpose' than the immediate setup, oh yeah! > > > [1] > http://docs.openstack.org/developer/trove/dev/building_guest_images.html > > Tried that for over a week. Failed so miserably, it's embarrassing! > Don't know if it's me, the docs or the image builder.. > > But I do remember that even if (when!) I followed the documentations _to > the > letter_, it still failed. > > Also, some versions of the image builder worked better than others (but I > could > not figure out the exact version used by the documenter), so it would be > beneficial to specify the exact versions used when writing the > documentation. > > > And have someone that never done it before do a run-through first - I know > from personal experience that you get .. 'code blind' (for lack of a > better > word) when you've worked with a project and try to write the docs - some > things > you know 'subconsciously' don't work (or work only in a specific use-case > etc) > and then 'automatically' leave that information out.. > > That is why [good] companies _NEVER_ (ever!!) allow the coders/admins to > go > any where _near_ the documentation! In a open source community, that is > unfortunately almost never an option, but it can be mitigated somewhat by > having other people in the community do a run-through. > > > [2] http://docs.openstack.org/developer/trove/dev/guest_cloud_init.html > > I can vaguely remember that. I know it failed, but can't remember the > details. > > > [3] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374952/ > > That look quite interesting, thanx. I'll try again.. > > "If you don't succeed, try and try [and try and try ..] again!" :) > > > OpenStack has guest images suitable for use with devstack[4] > > [4] http://tarballs.openstack.org/trove/images/ > > What does that actually mean? Is it not possible to use these images other > than with devstack? An instance image should be a unique, separate [amrith] The paragraph "OpenStack has guest images suitable for use with devstack[4] (available for download at tarballs.openstack.org) but that would require a devstack based system and I recall from our conversation that you didn't "trust all these *stack builders". If you are now using a system that is devstack based these images could help." always amounts to the following; if you are using a devstack based system these may help. But since you insist on not doing that, I can only hope that you have "fun". I'd like to help you but you have sought not to take any of it, so there is little else I can do. > instance > right? > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi- > bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack > Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org > Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi- > bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack _______________________________________________ Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
