On 07/08/2015 01:51 AM, Tristan Goode wrote: > There's an easy solution to this and a great first step of the community to > improve diversity by inclusion. Names will always offend someone somewhere > on the planet, and this time we've made a cracker by offending an entire > country. (Though it might be fun to call the next release "Nixon") > > > > So let's give up naming things like toys in our play crib, start acting > like grown ups and using semver or plain old integers. At worst, we might > have some people see bugs in version 13.
We already use semver. This is not a realistic solution to anything. > > Cheers > > Tristan > > > > > > *From:* Jaesuk Ahn [mailto:bluejay....@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, 8 July 2015 2:41 PM > *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List; Openstack Users; Monty Taylor; > Community User Groups, OpenStack > *Subject:* Re: [openstack-community] [openstack-dev] OpenStack Meiji (明治) - > Our next release name has been selected > > > > Dear OpenStack Community, > > > > As Clint mentioned, there is some historical background regarding the name > of "Meiji". > > > > I have been aware of the potential problem with "Meiji", however, I have > not raise my voice here since it was not the top of the list. > > However, with current situation, IMHO, it is better to present my concern > over this name. > > > > It was briefly mentioned in the previous email thread. > > Once again, please understand that the name "Meiji" can create some > historical debate in East Asia, especially in Korea. Under the name of > Emperor Meiji, Japan forcefully colonized Korea. Lots of people in Korea > suffered during the colonization. Furthermore, this history is not the one > only exists on the book. This is actually very recent event in terms of > history. > > > > FYI, there is a wiki entry: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule > > If you look at "legacy" section in the above wiki entry, you will > understand what I am referring to. > > > > I am not saying the word "Meiji" is bad in general. I just want to state > that this word can cause very negative feeling to some people in East Asia. > > > > I totally value the community's process and rules. I recognize that process > to select "Meiji" itself was not the problem at all. > > However, I am sincerely asking the community to acknowledge my concern over > this name, and please put some effort as a community to avoid any > unnecessary debate. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Best wishes for everyone here in the community. > > > > > > Jaesuk Ahn, Ph.D. > > member of OpenStack Community and OpenStack Korea User Group. > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 2:24 AM Clint Byrum <cl...@fewbar.com> wrote: > > http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/main_pop/kpct/kp_meiji.htm > > There's a summary of what Meiji might mean to historians. I'm not sure if > OpenStack needs to be too concerned about this, but I believe this is what > Ian is referring to as "historical and political debates in East Asia." > > Seems like a hot-button name for OpenStack to adopt. > > Excerpts from Ian Y. Choi's message of 2015-07-07 05:40:52 -0700: >> Hello, >> >> I think the third name 'Meiji' may arise some historical and political >> debates in East Asia, as far as I know. >> >> Could you share what significant identified problems are on the first two >> selected from our election? >> >> >> With many thanks, >> >> /Ian >> >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Masayuki Igawa <masayuki.ig...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> # I'm a native Japanese speaker :-) >>> >>> 2015年7月7日(火) 20:33 Amrith Kumar <amr...@tesora.com>: >>> >>>> Maybe this (the google answer)? >>>> >>>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvw0A12aOGQ >>> >>> >>> Yeah, this is correct pronunciation. >>> >>> >>>> But someone who is a native Japanese speaker should confirm. >>>> >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9vwge557hY >>> I think this is a casual version and Japanese people are familiar with >>> this. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -- Masayuki Igawa >>> >>> >>>> -amrith >>>> >>>> P.S. the yahoo answer suggests that you pronounce it as "Meh - gee" > with >>>> the emphasis on the "meh" ;) >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Matthias Runge [mailto:mru...@redhat.com] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 6:08 AM >>>> To: openstack-...@lists.openstack.org >>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack Meiji (明治) - Our next release > name >>>> has been selected >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 06, 2015 at 11:48:13PM -0400, Monty Taylor wrote: >>>>> significant identified problems... but the third in the list, Meiji ( > 明 >>>>> 治) is clear. >>>>> >>>>> So please join me in welcoming the latest name to our family ... and >>>>> if you, like me, are not a native Japanese speaker, in learning two >>>>> new characters. >>>> >>>> Could someone provide a hint please, how to pronounce this properly? >>>> -- >>>> Matthias Runge <mru...@redhat.com> >>>> >>>> > __________________________________________________________________________ >>>> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >>>> Unsubscribe: >>>> openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >>>> > __________________________________________________________________________ >>>> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >>>> Unsubscribe: >>>> openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >>>> >>> -- >>> -- Masayuki Igawa >>> >>> > __________________________________________________________________________ >>> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >>> Unsubscribe: > openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe >>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >>> >>> > > __________________________________________________________________________ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > _______________________________________________ Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack