On 17/06/14 11:41, Joe D'Andrea wrote:
Greetings! I am new to OpenStack and have a few questions:

Welcome :)

1. Is the "Walk-through in a stack's lifetime" section of this Wiki page 
accurate as of Icehouse? If not, what has changed?

https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/ApplicationDeployment

Yep, that is still accurate as far as it goes.

2. Related to #1, going forward, is it recommended to move off cfn-tools and on 
to cloud-init?

You're using cloud-init either way. If cfn-tools does what you need then there is probably no reason to change - the user-data script is arbitrary, so you can write whatever script works for you. However, stuff like Software Deployments + golden images can be a better alternative to the user-data script.

3. With Software Config/Deployment being bona fide resources, I imagine 
completion is signaled just like any other resource.

Every resource is different. Configs are easy of course, but Deployments signal using something very similar to a WaitCondition under the hood (with the advantage that you don't have to see how the sausage is made).

If I understand correctly, resources signal via RPC (yes?).

No.

Do software deployment resources work the same way under the hood (in 
particular between the VM and Nova)?

They work the same way as WaitConditions - a ReST API call back to Heat to indicate completion.

4. Given a stack with a server resource, suppose a template update moves this 
resource into an AutoScaling Group (same resource name). Is the resource 
ostensibly left as-is or is this always a destructive operation? Also, is this 
true for *any* resource placed into such a group during an update?

There is no concept of "moving" a resource into a scaling group. In fact, there is no concept in general of changing the type of a resource and still considering it in any sense the 'same' resource; it should always be replaced. (The only guarantee provided is that if resources have the same name, the new one will be created before the old one is deleted.)

I ask because it looks like AutoScaling invokes a nested call to Heat, passing 
along all the resources under its purview. I'm unsure how that nesting is 
handled in the case of updates and upstream resources, especially if the nested 
stack has its own ID (tracked, I imagine, as part of an AutoScaling Group).

Autoscaling maintains a generated template for the nested stack, so an update just does a nested stack update call on the nested stack with the current template.

cheers,
Zane.

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