For the development environment, more precisely, it may be PyCharm instead of 
intelliJ. or to cover both : jetbrain IDEA.


On Feb 3, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Everett Toews <everett.to...@rackspace.com> wrote:

> Some more potential questions.
> 
> 1. What development environment do you use?
> [ ] Eclipse
> [ ] Intellij IDEA
> [ ] Visual Studio
> [ ] Sublime
> [ ] vim
> Other
> 
> 2. What tools are you using to deploy/configure your application?
> [ ] Ansible
> [ ] Chef
> [ ] Puppet
> [ ] SaltStack
> Other
> 
> 3. What do you struggle with when developing and deploying applications on 
> OpenStack?
> Free form answers.
> 
> I’ll try to aggregate all of the Q&A into one list this week.
> 
> Thanks,
> Everett
> 
> 
> On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Everett Toews <everett.to...@rackspace.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> On Jan 21, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Dave Neary wrote:
>> 
>>> On 01/21/2014 02:25 AM, Everett Toews wrote:
>>>> There are a number of issues that stand out to me but before getting
>>>> into them some quick definitions to be clear what I'm talking about.
>>>> 
>>>> OpenStack developer = developer working on OpenStack itself
>>>> OpenStack operator = operator deploying/maintaining an OpenStack cloud
>>>> application developer = developer working on application being deployed
>>>> on an OpenStack cloud
>>>> application operator = operator deploying/maintaining an application on
>>>> an OpenStack cloud
>>>> users = any of OpenStack operator, application developer, application
>>>> operator
>>> 
>>> It would be really useful, I think, to match these up with some of the
>>> personas we have, so that we are all talking about the same thing
>>> (there's a big difference between someone deploying a small private
>>> cloud and someone operating a large public cloud, for example).
>> 
>> I attended your session on personas at the HK Summit. I was the guy ranting 
>> about SDKs from the back. ;)
>> 
>> The personas are definitely useful and I think we could use them to help 
>> inform the definitions of the above. Here's what I'm starting to envision 
>> for the survey.
>> 
>> On the About You page [1] we update the What best describes your involvement 
>> with OpenStack? section as follows
>> 
>> [ ] OpenStack cloud service provider - provides public or hosted private 
>> cloud services for other organizations
>> [ ] Ecosystem vendor - provides software or solutions that enable others to 
>> build or run OpenStack clouds
>> [ ] Private cloud operator - runs an OpenStack private cloud for their own 
>> organization
>> [ ] Application developer - has API or dashboard credentials and 
>> deploys/maintains an application running on an OpenStack cloud
>> [ ] Application operator - has API or dashboard credentials and develops an 
>> application running on an OpenStack cloud
>> 
>> If the survey taker checks Application developer or Application operator 
>> then they are shown a survey page with the questions we are formulating here 
>> instead of/in addition to the About Your OpenStack Deployments page.
>> 
>> I don't think we want to have the role definitions above too long but 
>> anything can help.
>> 
>> Can you link us to the personas work and how they might map to the roles as 
>> above?
>> 
>> [sidebar]
>> It seems the About You page already makes the distinction between someone 
>> deploying a small private cloud and someone operating a large public cloud. 
>> However, I think the line between "...or hosted private cloud services for 
>> other organizations" and "runs an OpenStack private cloud for their own 
>> organization" is pretty thin. "hosted private cloud services for other 
>> organizations" sounds like a small-scale public cloud to me. The real 
>> distinction being whether you're doing it for your org or for others. The 
>> questions on the About Your OpenStack Deployments page make the distinction 
>> between scale.
>> 
>> They could be reworded as
>> 
>> [ ] OpenStack operator for a public cloud - provides public or hosted 
>> private cloud services for other organizations
>> [ ] OpenStack operator for a private cloud - runs an OpenStack private cloud 
>> for their own organization
>> 
>> This is apart from the app dev oriented discussion and hence the sidebar.
>> [/sidebar]
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Everett
>> 
>> [1] https://www.openstack.org/user-survey/OrgInfo
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