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Remo Mattei

December 30, 2013 at 19:37:14, tudor (tu...@tudorholton.com) ha scritto:

Could you elaborate on your thinking here, Remo?   I've had the opposite 
experience.  I found Devstack frustrating because it presumes a single-node 
installation, and I'd lose all my settings every time I reran the script, and 
there's still a high degree of knowledge of the components if you want to go 
further.  As the name suggests, it's really aimed at the developers of 
OpenStack and not a "trial-run" or "test" installation.

Devstack is indeed for developers as well as packstack but at least you will 
have to know how the components will interact together before you add a second 
layer that cover what’s behind the scene like fuel. I did work with Mirantis so 
I know the nice options offered with Fuel. 


RDO doesn't offer things like High Availability and won't run on 
non-RedHat/CentOS/Fedora nodes.  (I don't know about Ceph offerings.)

RDO will have this options soon as far as I know. 


After months of trying and retrying I stumbled upon Mirantis and had it running 
inside VirtualBox in minutes with Ubuntu nodes!   I then did a bare-metal 
installation and I was more easily able to distinguish what was my own 
hardware/network issues, and what were gaps in my OpenStack knowledge.  Fuel 
gave me an 'Ahah!' moment with Neutron and networking which was previously 
hidden in installation detail.  "Choices" that aren't very clear in the OS 
documentation as to their benefits or hindrances became simple radio buttons 
and check boxes which I could play with and try out.  I can also have Fuel 
verify and recheck my settings (something which I'd started writing my own 
scripts for, but was glad to scrap as they were becoming complex and 
cumbersome.)

I can't speak highly enough of Mirantis (and currently have a 4.0 installation 
running as of this morning).  My only complaint is that they require 
registration for download, which is a little strange for an "open" product.   
(But then a number of companies are trying different things to monetise their 
development, and that's a whole different discussion.)

Yes the new fuel will have Neutron and Ceph and allows you to select what you 
would like in your Openstack infrastructure, still does not mean you know what 
you are doing. Learn first then use the tools to make your life easer otherwise 
troubleshooting is going to be a nightmare. 



Just my 2 cents.


I'm interested to hear your thinking.

Cheers,
Tudor. 

 

On 2013-12-31 11:08, Remo Mattei wrote:

I would not use fuel yet I would suggest to check rdo and devstack then when 
you have an understanding you could use fuel

Remo

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Il giorno Dec 30, 2013, alle ore 14:20, Hao Wang <hao.1.w...@gmail.com> ha 
scritto: I agree with Martinx even though I have not tried 4.0 but the previous 
version impressed me a lot comparing RDO and manual processes. Regards, Howard 
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Martinx - ジェームズ <thiagocmarti...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
I tried Mirantis Fuel 4.0 yesterday! Seems to be very great!!
On 30 December 2013 19:42, Kaushal Shriyan <kaushalshri...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Remo Mattei <r...@mattei.org> wrote: You 
should look at devstack and packstack Openstack.rdo.com has a nice install 
guide. Remo
Hi Remo, Are you referring to the below URL's http://devstack.org/ 
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Packstack http://openstack.redhat.com/Main_Page 
Please correct me if i am on the wrong URL's? Regards, Kaushal 
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