On 11/21/2013 10:15 AM, YunQiang Su wrote:
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Chuck Short <chuck.sh...@canonical.com> wrote:
Hi
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Martinx - ジェームズ <thiagocmarti...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Guys,
I'm a "Ubuntu evangelist", my entire family uses Ubuntu!
But, I trying to understand one thing:
1- Why OpenStack packages for Ubuntu is very "manual intensive", while on
Debian it is fully automated (with dbconfig-common / better packaging)?
Why?!
There is no automation for Ubuntu but, OpenStack on Debian is fully
automated... The keystone users and endpoints managed automatically by
Debian (db syncs, mysql, etc), but not by Ubuntu...
The packages do enough to get the services running.
Is there any special reason to not automate Ubuntu OpenStack packages,
just like Debian does?
The goal of the Ubuntu OpenStack packages to make it easily deploy in large
environments either using juju (preferred option ;), puppet, or chef. In
order to do this we keep the packaging simple and let the service
deployment/configuration management tool to do the setup of OpenStack based
on their environment.
That being said we think that keystone users and endpoints should not be
managed by debconf since most users who deploy at a large scale will not use
them in their deployments.
This is from Debian Guys:
https://wiki.debian.org/OpenStackHowto/Folsom#Why_choosing_Debian_and_not_Ubuntu_to_run_Openstack.3F
There be dragons here.
I suggest we drop the conversation, as it won't get better from this
point :)
-jay
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