As another data point, we've been doing some OpenStack development on EC2 servers. Since we have a corporate EC2 account, this is just an easy way to get a bunch of servers for any kind of development.

--Craig

On 10/2/13 2:04 AM, Marco Fornaro wrote:
Hi Bob,

Great!

Thanks so much for your help!

Best Regards

Marco

*From:*Bob Ball [mailto:bob.b...@citrix.com]
*Sent:* den 2 oktober 2013 10:54
*To:* Marco Fornaro; openstack@lists.openstack.org
*Subject:* RE: Openstack IN a Virtual Machine?

I can’t speak for KVM, but this is certainly possible using XenServer.
We’ve run nested virtualisation and nested OpenStack instances
(primarily devstack instances for testing) many times.

There is a degradation in performance, as you would expect from nested
virtualisation, but it’s definitely functional.

Bob

*From:*Marco Fornaro [mailto:marco.forn...@huawei.com]
*Sent:* 02 October 2013 08:58
*To:* openstack@lists.openstack.org
*Subject:* [Openstack] Openstack IN a Virtual Machine?

Hi All,

I have a question on Openstack that is quite important for my cloud
architecture:

à*Can I have a complete Openstack instance running ON a VIRTUAL MACHINE?*

*Or, generalizing: can I have “nested” openstack instances?*

…and ….If this is possible…are there any constraints?

NOTES:

->I’m interested to openstack instances WITH all network features
available, meaning Quantum server with (preferably) openwswitch plugin,
so I would be interested in VMs with a nested openstack image that do
provide or access quatum server features…BUT even a flat DHCP network
would be better than nothing!

->I normally use KVM as Hypervisor

Thanks so much for any help

Best Regards

Marco Fornaro

P.S.: if this is a “newbie” question I apology, but I cannot find a
clear answer in doc (see for instance
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HypervisorSupportMatrix) AND perhaps
some little words could save a lot of time when trying to realize such a
nested achitecture



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