hi matt glad hear that openshift also opensource :)..
a like a choice of PaaS in cloud, and OpenStack as reference. a lot of homework in our OpenPaaS team, which we reposiiton our OpenStack User group more technical, like demo apps , which right now we distribute the material in PDF using bahasa.. Frans On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Matt Hicks <[email protected]> wrote: > On 09/12/2012 09:13 PM, Frans Thamura wrote: >> >> hi all >> >> we try to make openstack as paas using cloudfoundry. and also seeking >> alternative to it >> >> shocked that there are forked cloudfiundry. and got that vmware manage >> different way his cloudfoundry >> >> there are piston, stackato i hear appfog >> >> never hear cf manage the way people do. in this case forking esp bosh >> >> bosh is the link to openstack and got the forker using openstack as >> platform >> >> i try to see in different way. hoe openstack work with them and what is >> the best >> >> glad there are competition. but sadly one become many rather unique >> innovation >> >> any feedback? i try to promote open paas and openstack in one community >> program >> >> thx all >> >> Frans Thamura >> Meruvian >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack >> Post to : [email protected] >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> > > Warning - I'm a biased party since I work on OpenShift, but I couldn't > resist... > > Another good option to consider is OpenShift. OpenShift [1] has also been > designed from the ground up around an extensible 'cartridge' model [2] that > allows any software to be integrated and managed by the platform. > OpenShift's dependencies are also isolated to the operating system which > allow it to work on any IaaS solution like OpenStack. We think the > combination of secure multi-tenancy that OpenShift provides in conjunction > with private cloud capabilities that OpenStack provides is really powerful. > If you want to see something up and running quickly, you can check out what > the Heat API guys have done with OpenStack + OpenShift [3]. > > In terms of PaaS 'API' standardization, I think the industry is a ways out > from that. While higher level PaaS API's might seem to provide portability, > many lower level details still are exposed that the applications are forced > to deal with. Those include things like application runtimes, storage, > operating system versions and isolation techniques. > > That said, our goal is to build strong standards in this space over time. > We are involved in several industry PaaS standards but they are still a ways > out from being finalized [4][5]. Also, consider how fast the multi-tenancy > technologies themselves are evolving in the operating system (e.g. kernel > namespaces, linux control groups, selinux sandboxes) in addition to the ways > to utilize them (e.g. lxc). Given that pace, it feels a little early to > make long term decisions about where to draw the line between a virtual > machine and a linux container. Knowing how to leverage 'containers' is > critical enough for a PaaS that I believe we'll have to have more > standardization at that layer before we see the PaaS evolution slow down. > > In the meantime though, we're going to keep hacking on OpenShift and > OpenStack, so if there is anything you'd like to see, just let us know! [6] > > 1 - http://red.ht/In0DOn > 2 - http://red.ht/Il2XBZ > 3 - https://github.com/heat-api/heat/wiki/Runningopenshift > 4 - http://www.infoq.com/news/2012/08/CAMP-PaaS > 5 - https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=tosca > 6 - https://openshift.redhat.com/community/open-source#Discussion_Forums > > -Matt > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
