-1 for ServerGroup because in the OSAPI terminology Server is a guest instance rather than a physical host.
I assume that the relationship between zone and availability zone will still exist (and I remind you that host-aggregates have been coming along to). So you have: ?? <--> Availability Zones <--> Host Aggregates How about ?? == Deployment [Slice | Area | or Section] I know that Region may not be liked by some people, but that is good too. Armando > -----Original Message----- > From: openstack-bounces+armando.migliaccio=eu.citrix....@lists.launchpad.net > [mailto:openstack- > bounces+armando.migliaccio=eu.citrix....@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of > Martin Paulo > Sent: 14 February 2012 23:34 > To: Jay Pipes > Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net > Subject: Re: [Openstack] Remove Zones code - FFE > > ServerGroup gets my vote at the moment: it's a term that has an overloaded > meaning (as far as I know) > > Martin > > On 15 February 2012 06:25, Jay Pipes <jaypi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > -1 on shard b/c of database terminology. -1 on cluster because of HPC > > and database terminology. > > > > Zone was originally used because it is general -- referring to merely > > a collection of hosts or other zones and not having a geographic > > connotation like Region does. > > > > Other possibilities: > > > > * Container (not recommended, as it is overloaded with Solaris or > > Linux container virtualization) > > * ServerGroup > > * HostGroup > > * Group > > * Collection > > > > If Zone isn't used, I suppose I would prefer ServerGroup > > > > -jay > > > > > > On 02/13/2012 08:45 PM, Yun Mao wrote: > >> > >> agreed.. > >> > >> -1 on shard, +1 on cluster > >> > >> Yun > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Martin Paulo<martin.pa...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Please not 'shards' > >>> Sharding as a concept is so intertwined with databases IMHO that it > >>> will serve to confuse even more. Why not 'cluster'? > >>> > >>> Martin > >>> > >>> On 13 February 2012 09:50, Chris Behrens<cbehr...@codestud.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Sorry, I'm late. Really getting down to the wire here. :) > >>>> > >>>> I've thrown up a version here: > >>>> https://review.openstack.org/#change,4062 > >>>> > >>>> I've not functionally tested it yet, but there's really good test > >>>> coverage for the zones service itself. I also have added a > >>>> test_compute_zones which tests that all of the compute tests pass > >>>> while using the new ComputeZonesAPI class. > >>>> > >>>> There's a couple bugs I note in the review and then I think I'm > >>>> missing pushing some instance updates to the top in libvirt code. > >>>> And missing an update for instance deletes in the compute manager. > >>>> Going to hit those up today and finish this off. > >>>> > >>>> One other comment: It's been suggested we not call this stuff 'Zones' > >>>> anymore. It gets confused with availability zones and so forth. > >>>> Since this is really a way to shard nova, it has been suggested to call > this 'Shards'. > >>>> :) Not sure I dig that name completely, although it makes sense. > >>>> Thoughts? > >>>> > >>>> - Chris > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Feb 9, 2012, at 10:29 AM, Leandro Reox wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Awesome Chrisssss !!! > >>>>> > >>>>> Lean > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Alejandro > >>>>> Comisario<alejandro.comisa...@mercadolibre.com> wrote: > >>>>> Niceee !! > >>>>> > >>>>> Alejandro. > >>>>> > >>>>> On 02/09/2012 02:02 PM, Chris Behrens wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I should be pushing something up by end of day... Even if it's > >>>>>> not granted an FFE, I'll have a need to keep my branch updated > >>>>>> and working, so I should at least always have a branch pushed up > >>>>>> to a github account somewhere until F1 opens up. So, I guess > >>>>>> worst case... there'll be a branch somewhere for you to play > >>>>>> with. :) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> - Chris > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Feb 8, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Tom Fifield wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Just raising another deployment waiting on this new Zone > >>>>>>> implementation - we currently have 2000 cores sitting idle in > >>>>>>> another datacentre that we can use "better" if this is done. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> How can we help? ;) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Tom > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 02/08/2012 07:30 PM, Ziad Sawalha wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> We were working on providing the necessary functionality in > >>>>>>>> Keystone but stopped when we heard of the alternative solution. > >>>>>>>> We could resume the conversation about what is needed on the > >>>>>>>> Keystone side and implement if needed. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Z > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> From: Sandy Walsh< > >>>>>>>> sandy.wa...@rackspace.com > >>>>>>>> <mailto:sandy.wa...@rackspace.com> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 01:49:58 +0000 > >>>>>>>> To: Joshua McKenty< > >>>>>>>> jos...@pistoncloud.com > >>>>>>>> <mailto:jos...@pistoncloud.com> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> , Vishvananda Ishaya > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> < > >>>>>>>> vishvana...@gmail.com<mailto:vishvana...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cc: " > >>>>>>>> openstack@lists.launchpad.net > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net>"<openstack@lists.launchp > >>>>>>>> ad.net <mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Openstack] Remove Zones code - FFE > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Understood, timing is everything. I'll let Chris talk about > >>>>>>>> expected timing for the replacement. From a deployers side, > >>>>>>>> nothing would really change, just some configuration options > >>>>>>>> ... but a replacement should be available. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I'm sure we could get it working pretty easily. The Keystone > >>>>>>>> integration was the biggest pita. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I can keep this branch fresh with trunk for when we're ready to > >>>>>>>> pull the trigger. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -S > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>> --------- > >>>>>>>> *From:* Joshua McKenty [ > >>>>>>>> jos...@pistoncloud.com > >>>>>>>> <mailto:jos...@pistoncloud.com> ] > >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 01, 2012 4:45 PM > >>>>>>>> *To:* Vishvananda Ishaya > >>>>>>>> *Cc:* Sandy Walsh; > >>>>>>>> openstack@lists.launchpad.net > >>>>>>>> <mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Openstack] Remove Zones code - FFE > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> +1 to Vish's points. I know there are some folks coming online > >>>>>>>> +in > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> Folsom timeline that can help out with the new stuff, but this > >>>>>>>> feels a bit like going backwards. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> Joshua McKenty, CEO > >>>>>>>> Piston Cloud Computing, Inc. > >>>>>>>> w: (650) 24-CLOUD > >>>>>>>> m: (650) 283-6846 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> http://www.pistoncloud.com > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> "Oh, Westley, we'll never survive!" > >>>>>>>> "Nonsense. You're only saying that because no one ever has." > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 1, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I am all for pulling this out, but I'm a bit concerned with > >>>>>>>>> the fact that we have nothing to replace it with. There are > >>>>>>>>> some groups still trying to use it. MercadoLibre is trying to > >>>>>>>>> use it for example. I know you guys are trying to replace this > >>>>>>>>> with something better, but it would be nice not to break > >>>>>>>>> people for 7+ months > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> So I guess I have some questions: > >>>>>>>>> 1.a) is the current implementation completely broken? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> 1.b) if yes, is it fixable > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> 2) If we do remove this, what can we tell people that need > >>>>>>>>> something like zones between now and the Folsom release? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Vish > >>>>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Sandy Walsh wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> As part of the new (and optional) Zones code coming down the > >>>>>>>>>> pipe, part of this is to remove the old Zones implementation. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> More info in the merge prop: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> https://review.openstack.org/#change,3629 > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> So, can I? can I? 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